strumminsix wrote:jahozer wrote:Depends on how much control and muscle memory you have in your forearm. Of course there will be times where you make small wrist movements, but I would argue that proper technique is first master full arm, then utilize wrist movements when needed. Too many people plant that wrist and do little micro movements and it screws up their timing.
Thinking about this more and was watching my self play and 2 things come to mind. Firstly, my forearm sticks in the zone above the bridge plus or minus a couple inches but never goes into full pendulum. Secondly, you say "proper technique" and I'm not sure what you are getting at with it. When I think of some of the best non solo note things my ears have heard on a guitar it's been alot of finger picking be it jazz or country and also some flat picking and some bass clunk stuff and all of that is keeping the wrist over the bridge.
I don't know if there is a proper technique on the arm. Seems to me whatever you can do for 6 hours a day, hit the strings you want and not the others, change it up, and keep your time you are doing alright!
PS - think of a HOT Other One. You can definitely hear Bobby's attack and see him keep it tight and snappy and hugging the bridge then full and pendulum wail!
When I watch the vid that Pete B. just posted, they are both doing what I am talking about. Most of the movement is coming from the elbow. The top of the forearm is planted on the top of the guitar. Their wrists are moving, especially bobby's, but the arm is in constant motion, and neither have their wrists planted on the bridge.
I never talked about wild flailing on a full pendulum, thats just silly. That would the the logical extreme of what I am talking about, but thats not what I mean. Wherever your arm hovers is fine as long as its hovering, and not planted. That give you full range of movement.
When I say proper technique, if you ever take classical lessons, its one of the things they teach you. Just like how to grip the neck and to plant your finger tips. You can vary, but there is a standard to start from, and proper form in that sense is in the motion coming from the elbow. Mel Bay can back me up on this!
Whatever works for you works for you, and you always vary technique, but talking to a beginner, I think its an important thing to teach them. It certainly helped me, as a reformed wrist planter. I was already an accomplished player, and I went back and took some lessons, they made me change most of my approach to holding the guitar. What I found were the results of bad habits from years of doing my own thing. The results were night and day. Had to reprogram for a while, but I would have loved to started from that standard first, and then devolve into my own thing.
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