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 #73491  by strumminsix
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:44 am
dleonard wrote:I don't know anything about woods. But great sustain can clearly be attained on hollow and semi-hollows. Listen to Phish-You Enjoy Myself
It can be but citing Trey who always uses a sutain (comp) pedal and has his guitar blaring in the monitors on the verge of feedback is not the best source :lol:
 #73505  by Rusty the Scoob
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:01 pm
Yeah, trey's sustain is endless but largely electronic.

Why does everyone make a big deal about sustain anyway? So you hit a note and it goes Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

do you really care if it rings for 5 minutes instead of 3? I care 1000% more about the attack of the note. I want a good initial impact THUMP, and I'd prefer for it to die down a little imediately after like an upright bass. That's how you keep a mix clean but still cut through.

Phil's even on record as saying he hates listening to bass players who sit there and sustain notes, and I agree. There's rarely any interesting information conveyed by letting a string vibrate endlessly.
 #73507  by keirweir
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:07 pm
I may be jumping in on this late but that spalted Maple is remarkable and one of a kind. Spalted maple, A nice dark purple heart core... Thats where I would go. But Vic knows what he's doing and I am sure it wil come out quit nice regardless of choice.

Goooooooooooooooooooo Spalted!!!!!!!!!!

:cheers:
 #73511  by playingdead
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:40 pm
Again, lots of good points ...

As for resale, since I'm a lefty, it's hard to imagine being able to sell it at all, so I'm not going to pick a top based on that. I want something beautiful, interesting, and unique ... the spalt seems to be all those things.

(PS -- I'm an art director, too.)

For the body and neck, Scott suggests:

"I have a super rare stash of Indian rosewood that I think would make a killer match. If it was chambered too, it would keep the weight off. Here is a picture. We could do a matching neck as well."

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 #73514  by SarnoMusicSolutions
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:08 pm
Keep in mind that Trey's hollow Languedoc's actually don't have that much sustain at all compared to solid electrics with metal bridges. I've held and played them. Trey got his sustain from a compressor pedal and feedback, but not the guitar itself on its own. Jerry's guitar is quite the opposite, very dense, heavy, and bright sounding woods. Jerry's guitars likely had tremendous sustain.

Brad
 #73516  by strumminsix
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:21 pm
I'm gonna based on looks along - quilted maple. It's a classy and timeless look!
Rusty the Scoob wrote:I want a good initial impact THUMP, and I'd prefer for it to die down a little imediately after like an upright bass. That's how you keep a mix clean but still cut through.
Rusty, every play an axe with a quartsawn neck? Talk about attack before your pick is even done picking! WOWZA!
 #73528  by sillydog2
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:02 pm
That spalted top is growing on me and with all the stuff you are seeing in it, it seems like you made you decision already.

As for your 'excess' lefties..... what do you got and what do you want for them? I always have money for a good guitar.
 #73530  by krzykat
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:20 pm
sillydog2 wrote:That spalted top is growing on me and with all the stuff you are seeing in it, it seems like you made you decision already.

As for your 'excess' lefties..... what do you got and what do you want for them? I always have money for a good guitar.
I'm a lefty too so . . .
 #73532  by playingdead
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:24 pm
When the Walker is done, I would likely part with my backup Jerrycaster, which is based on a mid-80s American Strat, with two Super IIs, and an SDS-1, and a Cutler CB-1 buffer. The Walker's getting a buffer and a Super II in the middle, so it will be a good backup (or primary) GD guitar.

I also have a beautiful lefty John Suhr Custom Classic Strat, like new, great tone, swamp ash, tobacco burst, Surh V60 pickups (HSS), stainless frets, pleked, maple neck, abalone markers ... terrific guitar, $1800 (guitar specs out to about $3600 new). Suhr makes about the best boutique Strats out there.

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 #73537  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:53 pm
Vic can you really say no to the spalted after the Jerry face(s), the dancing bear, (which actually looks a lot like the UCLA bear or the Utah Jazz bear), the Culkin, the Edvard Munch?

No way dude, can't be done.