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 #138225  by Bear62
 Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:15 pm
So I just bought a Martin Seth Avett D-35 Custom shop a few months ago From Tobias Music in Downers Grover, IL! Great shop by the way. Super deal on a guitar put on consignment after a regular returned it to buy a D-45. Broke a string today and discovered that the pins a freakin plastic. WTF This guitar sells for over $3K new. Anyway just thought I would see what others thoughts are. I think I will send a note to Martin. Love the guitar, Alpine Bear claw Spruce top Rosewood back and sides w/ Koa wedge on back. Built in Fishman gold PU!


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 #138240  by tcsned
 Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:51 am
That's odd that they wouldn't go the extra mile and use ebony pins. You can alway get some or some mammoth/walrus ivory pins. I just went to their website and it looks like every model they have uses plastic pins. :roll:
 #138242  by tatittle
 Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:35 am
I am not surprised, perhaps disappointed. My D-18 Martin has plastic (not as pricey). I cant recall, but I doubt the models of old with real tortoise and whale bone used plastic (probably wasn't available anyway). I prefer organic materials if merely because they have a soulful countenance if you will. Probably very little change in the tone, but discerning ears pickup a lot.
 #138243  by TI4-1009
 Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:01 am
Terminology. Plastic is organic (chemically it contains carbon). It's not "natural", but from a chemistry standpoint it would be an organic material.
 #138254  by DHM
 Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:22 am
Yeah..I've got a D18GE...and about the third string change that I went "whoa...these are plastic..."

I bought a set of bone pins from Stew Mac...$26...I would guess ebony would be does seem sort of cheesy to use plastic on a $3000 guitar; maybe they concluded it didn't make that much difference.....maybe rather than "organic" or inorganic, the concept is wood or bone or even ivory, as opposed to "around virtually unchanged until it gets drawn into the mantle by plate tectonics" like a lot of the plastics we use these days....

 #138264  by TI4-1009
 Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:36 pm
DHM wrote:"around virtually unchanged until it gets drawn into the mantle by plate tectonics" Don

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Agree that plastic pins are cheesy on almost any Martin.

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 #138269  by Bear62
 Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:17 pm
Stew Mac it is then! Saves me a trip to GC. Also, I wanted to buy a set of Med. gauge strings starting at .13. Seem harder to find at music stores these days. Put on the 12's and the G string seems to small for the nut and buzzes when I dig in at 5th or 7th fret. Using Ernie Ball Earthwoods (8--20). They help tone down the low end and accentuate the highs nicely though. What are you using on your D-18GE? Mine came w/ Martin Coated Phosphor Bronze strings that I was just starting to get used to!

 #138278  by DHM
 Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:31 pm
Right now I've got a set of Thomas Vinci 12s on the D18GE......I don't recall if its an 80-20 or a PB set...when I ordered them I got one of each.......the things a boomer even with 12s and they seem easier on my creaky old hands...the bridge pins should be good...
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 #138282  by tatittle
 Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:16 am
I would be careful about leaving .13's on at full tension for long periods of time. That is how mine got its belly I think.

Organic matter, matter that has come from a once-living organism, is capable of decay or the product of decay, or is composed of organic compound.