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 #53201  by RETURN
 Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:15 am
Not a novice on the Dead but downloading and getting shows other than the old fashion way is something I have not done much of. Having the Dead channel has put me on a mission to increase my collection by....... well a shit load.

Yesterday they played 11/4/77 from Colgate Univ. :cool: WOW!! one hell of a show.
I must have it. My friend used to burn me stuff from Archive but if I'm correct there are no sound boards. I'd really like to have a crisp clean version of this.

Please guide me o masters.
 #53209  by Emoto
 Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:08 pm
I use a couple of bit torrent clients to grab the shows. The one I
like the best is Azureus (now Vuze) which can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/

Downloaded files are usually in either FLAC or SHN format, which are
lossless compression formats. I think you have to convert them to WAV files
before you can burn them to CD or rip them to MP3, etc., at least that's how I do it.

The conversion programs I use are from
http://www.furthurnet.org/downloadarea/othertools.html. I use
Flacfrontend and MKWAct. These convert Flac and Shn files (to WAV),
respectively.

All of these tools are free.

I find the shows I want on these sites:

http://bt.etree.org/index.php
http://www.thetradersden.org/index.php?
http://www.shnflac.net/torrents.php


So, the process is:

1. Go to one of the 3 sites above (you may have to "join" one of them,
but it is free and without obligation), find a show you want, then
download the torrent file to your local drive (right click, save as).
Torrent files are small and take seconds to download.

2. Open Azureus and then use it to open the torrent file saved in step
1. The show's files will download to wherever you tell Azureus to put
them. It will make a new sub-folder named after the downloaded torrent
file. These names tend to include artist names or initials and
performance date, e.g., bromberg1980-05-08flac

3. Once the files have finished downloading (they will change into the
lower Azureus window) you fire up Flacfrontend to decode Flacs, or
select and right-click them if they are Shns and select "decode to
wav" and convert all of the files. Depending on which tools you
grabbed, the conversion details will vary, but they are all easy to
use.

4. Burn them to CD. Nero probably came on your PC. It works fine. The
files will typically have names that will contain a string to indicate
where they go, e.g. D1T1 (disc 1, track 1) so that the songs end up in
order. Make sure you burn a "music CD" and not a "data CD". or your CD
player won't know what to do with it.

5. Now that you have them on CD, you can either stop there and enjoy
the CDs, or rip the files from the CDs into MP3s for your iPod or
similar. I use iTunes (free from http://www.Apple.com) to do this, because it
also manages the files for my iPod. You may want to delete the
downloaded files from your hard drive as you will fill it up quickly
otherwise.

I hope you find this useful. Once you have the tools installed, it is
a pretty painless process.
 #53230  by prephippie
 Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:12 pm
Emoto wrote:Downloaded files are usually in either FLAC or SHN format, which are
lossless compression formats. I think you have to convert them to WAV files
before you can burn them to CD or rip them to MP3, etc., at least that's how I do it.
There are free plug-ins for most burning software (I use Nero)that allow you to burn straight from flac/shn -> audio CD. Also, if you just want to listen on your computer, they make free plug-ins for Windows Media Player as well as other players that let you play flac/shn. Except for ipod, there's no real need to convert anymore.
 #53231  by RETURN
 Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:18 pm
Whoa looks like I got a lot to learn but I guess It's about time.

Thanks a lot for all the help folks, much appreciated.
 #53236  by Emoto
 Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:02 pm
prephippie wrote:
Emoto wrote:Downloaded files are usually in either FLAC or SHN format, which are
lossless compression formats. I think you have to convert them to WAV files
before you can burn them to CD or rip them to MP3, etc., at least that's how I do it.
There are free plug-ins for most burning software (I use Nero)that allow you to burn straight from flac/shn -> audio CD. Also, if you just want to listen on your computer, they make free plug-ins for Windows Media Player as well as other players that let you play flac/shn. Except for ipod, there's no real need to convert anymore.
That's cool to know. Thanks. I will probably still take the step of burning them to CD, as this becomes a backup in case of disc failure.
 #53274  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:52 am
Emoto,

Thanks for the tips. I have never really gotten it all together until now and finally downloaded my first few shows. Grabbed a couple JGB shows from February of 1980, awesome stuff. Then hit the jackpot with JGB at the Warfield in '93 when Jerry was back in action and the sound on this show is the some of the best I have ever heard. Muchas gracias!
 #53275  by Emoto
 Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:00 am
Crazy 9.5 Fingers wrote:Emoto,

Thanks for the tips. I have never really gotten it all together until now and finally downloaded my first few shows. Grabbed a couple JGB shows from February of 1980, awesome stuff. Then hit the jackpot with JGB at the Warfield in '93 when Jerry was back in action and the sound on this show is the some of the best I have ever heard. Muchas gracias!
Glad it's working out!