fwiw, I don't hear any difference between plugging the outboard buffer pedal directly into my guitar (using one of those double ended 1/4" effects jacks), [making it like 6 inches or so from the pickups], and having it on a 9ft long GeorgeL cable.KCJones wrote:This is laymens logic here, so don't beat me up too bad .... But, Doesn't the pedal defeat the whole purpose of having a onboard buffer ... to compensate for that initial cable run and its quality/character, perhaps the longest and most important in your chain? At the very least I would suspect that your not going to regain any tone loss that was lost from the initial instrument cable. And in fact, a buffer down the chain may simply amplify any tonal degration resulting befor it in the chain. I haven't seen any discussion or manufacturer notes on this matter. Anyone with first hand experience?Very interested in a pedal. I rotate between 2-4 guitars a night this would make taming my q-tron easy and open up some tone options.
The OBEL-pedal makes it easy to use the buffer/effects-loop with any instrument.
I use a volume pedal so the signal path is the same circuit "electronically"...
Pickups > selector-switch > with a typical electric guitar there's a pre-existing Volume control on the guitar, in this case set to "wide open" (effectively out of the circuit) > Tone control > 9ft GeorgeL cable to the OBEL-Pedal (instead of the 6inches or so if you have it onboard) > 25K Volume Pedal (instead of using the volume control on your guitar).
I place the OBEL-pedal right next to my MuTronIII and MuTron Octave Divider, and they are linked with three, 1ft long, GeorgeL cables.
So running the buffer onboard you have 6in from your tone control to the onboard buffer, but 20+ft(?) of send/return TRS cable (why the "Onboard" buffer was needed).
I have 9ft from tone control to buffer (inaudible difference as far as I can tell), and 3 feet of cable in my effects loop.
Maybe I'm missing something???
It's a super convenient plug and play solution for guys who want/need that option. I run both my Pedal Steel and Guitar thru this rig with an A/B box on gigs.
I'm sure I'll own a Guitar with a built in OBEL some day, but for now I can plug any instrument into the OBEL-Pedal.