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What is Your Favorite GD Era?

1965 - 1966 Warlocks & Beyond
No votes
0%
1967 - The summer of Love
No votes
0%
1968 - 1969 Rolling Thunder
3
16%
1970 - 1971 Pigpens Last Stand
3
16%
1972 - Europe and Beyond
1
5%
1973 - 1974 The Wall of Sound
8
42%
1975 - 1979 Dead is Jazz
1
5%
1980 - 1984 Bring On Brent
2
11%
1985 - 1990 Ups and Downs
1
5%
1991 - 1992 Bring on Bruce
No votes
0%
1992 - 1995 This was the Last Time
No votes
0%
1995 - now Ratdog, TOO, The Dead, Phil & Friends, ect.
No votes
0%
 #3836  by mikeohiostate
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:09 am
What was your favorite era of the Grateful Dead? Not so much your favorite line-up, but when you think they were making the best music.

1965 - 1966 Warlocks & Beyond
1967 - The summer of Love
1968 - 1969 Rolling Thunder
1970 - 1971 Pigpens Last Stand
1972 - Europe and Beyond
1973 - 1974 The Wall of Sound
1975 - 1979 Dead is Jazz
1980 - 1984 Bring On Brent
1985 - 1990 Ups and Downs
1991 - 1992 Bring on Bruce
1992 - 1995 This was the Last Time
1995 - now Ratdog, TOO, The Dead, Phil & Friends, ect.

 #3838  by strumminsix
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:17 am
cool poll and nice description of the eras!!!

73-74 baby!!!!

 #3842  by Shaggy
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:00 am
Great topic and good descriptions. But the question is so tough for me.

I just don't know. I might have to go with 75-79 because not only was it a great era in terms of great shows and tight playing together but look at the great songs they had to fall back on then. Most of them had been written by then.

I would go with the Anthem era for the incredable nature of the music they were creating but dozens and dozens of their greatest songs were yet to be written.

Tough one for me this!

 #3843  by sarraqum
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:09 am
This one is hard, have to go for 73-74, just because...

If I had two votes I'd pick Brent's era as well.

I am actually listening to 74 show right now, Keith isn't as repetetive as he was in later years and pulls out some brilliant melodies, especially on Eyes.

Oh, and Pigpen was at Europe 72, thats what made it so great. So Pigpen's Last Stand is kinda not right....

 #3846  by AugustWest
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:15 am
I don't know about everyone else, but this changes almost daily for me. Overall i'm going to vote 1980-1984 I am all about brent right now. Tomorrow it may be the late 60's or early 70's. I wish that 89-90 were in a different catagory then 87-88. I'm a big fan of 89-90, but not really fond of 87-88. Oh well. Cool topic.

 #3850  by eyeprod
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:28 am
defintely early to mid 70's. the only time the cowboy songs sounded really good imo. plus so many other great sounds of the time are classic to me.

73-74 for the win

 #3851  by jahozer
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:11 pm
I like the 75-79 era
and the 80-84 era tapes the best.
89 was a great year too,though.

 #3858  by tigerstrat
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:09 pm
Some of those eras don't make a lot of sense to me in terms of the music. This is my own division of eras.

1965 - 1967 - Warlocks, The Tests, pre-Mickey
1968 - mid-1969 The Primal Peak
mid-1969 - 1970 Americana Explosion, Psychedelic Expansion
1971 a year apart - Mickey's departure, Pigpen's Last Stand
late 1971 - 1974 The One-drummer Renaissance, Enter the Godchauxs
1975 - 1978 Jewels Polished And Gleaming + decline of Keith & Phil
1979 - 1983 Brent's Magic Elixir
1984 - 1986 Trouble Ahead, Jerry In Red
1987 - July1990 We Will Survive; MIDI-everything;
Sept1990-1991 Farewell Brent, The Bruce Experiment
1992 - 1995 This was the Last Time
1995 - now Ratdog, TOO, The Dead, Phil & Friends, etc.

fwiw, I will cast my vote for 1972, although it belongs in the same category with 1973, 1974, and Oct-Dec of 1971.
 #3861  by yem
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:21 pm
i cant get enought of the brent stuff
89 is probably my favorite year

 #3870  by strumminsix
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:04 pm
tigerstrat wrote:Some of those eras don't make a lot of sense to me in terms of the music. This is my own division of eras.

1965 - 1967 - Warlocks, The Tests, pre-Mickey
1968 - mid-1969 The Primal Peak
mid-1969 - 1970 Americana Explosion, Psychedelic Expansion
1971 a year apart - Mickey's departure, Pigpen's Last Stand
late 1971 - 1974 The One-drummer Renaissance, Enter the Godchauxs
1975 - 1978 Jewels Polished And Gleaming + decline of Keith & Phil
1979 - 1983 Brent's Magic Elixir
1984 - 1986 Trouble Ahead, Jerry In Red
1987 - July1990 We Will Survive; MIDI-everything;
Sept1990-1991 Farewell Brent, The Bruce Experiment
1992 - 1995 This was the Last Time
1995 - now Ratdog, TOO, The Dead, Phil & Friends, etc.

fwiw, I will cast my vote for 1972, although it belongs in the same category with 1973, 1974, and Oct-Dec of 1971.
Oh come one, it was a damn good rundown. Why do you have 71 as Pig's last stand?

Also, I think splitting 73 & 74 away from 72 was perfect musically. There is no way those 3 years should be in the same grouping.

 #3874  by Crowhead
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:06 pm
For me...
77
72
74
80
89
84
...in that order.

 #3884  by tigerstrat
 Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:36 pm
strumminsix wrote: Why do you have 71 as Pig's last stand?
Because the spring of 1971 was his last great tour before he became too ill to play, and he played a very minor role in 1972. I also seperated it from 1970 because in 1970 you have Mickey, but he left at the very beginning of '71.
strumminsix wrote:Also, I think splitting 73 & 74 away from 72 was perfect musically. There is no way those 3 years should be in the same grouping.
Actually I would group Oct 1971 to Oct 1974 as one "era". because it's the beginning and most creative half of Keith's tenure, and the fairly cohesive flavor of the songwriting period, the ending defined by the 1975 hiatus and the return of Mickey.

Why would you seperate 1972 from these years? What's the major difference?

 #3892  by sarraqum
 Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:26 am
Pigpen? Played? Minor? Role? In 1972?

I would quietly disagree with you there. OK he wasn't as prolific during that period as a whole but the Europe tour alone has yielded enough material to cement his and GD's reputation in that moment in time. In my opinion, Europe 72 would not have been as big a deal if Pigpen wasn't there, thats what gave it that special something.

I also think that Europe 72 was more less an era by itself, but we already had a poll to see whether it was GD's best tour ever so I'll drop the subject as quietly as I began.

 #3893  by sarraqum
 Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:28 am
And now to make an ass of myself......

Europe 72 and Beyond is classified here as an era so I'll just shut my stupid mouth.