Strumminsix, (and others): Thank you for your thoughtful and well voiced reply. I am not trying to upset you or anyone else, and I hope you don't take my responses personally. I just have a difference of opinion. Let me see if I can respond as eloquently.
PS. Did you check out the link?
So, where does Phil agree with Bobby and say that SB's should be pulled?Thirdly, Phil, keep reading you stopped after you read one article. Since that time he said Bobby made the right decision after all this went down and made a very tough, but correct decision. Phil did not say what you said he said ("It was brought to my attention that all of the Grateful Dead shows were taken down from Archive.org right before Thanksgiving. I was not part of this decision making process and was not notified that the shows were to be pulled. I do feel that the music is the Grateful Dead's legacy and I hope that one way or another all of it is available for those who want it . I have enjoyed using Archive.org and found it invaluable during the writing of my book. I found myself being pulled back in time listening to old Grateful Dead shows while giggling with glee or feeling that ache in my heart listening to Jerry's poetic guitar and sweet voice.
We are musicians not businessmen and have made good and bad decisions on our journey. We do love and care about our community as you helped us make the music. We could not have made this kind of music without you as you allowed us to play "without a net". Your love, trust and patience made it possible for us to try again the next show when we couldn't get that magic carpet off the ground. Your concerns have been heard and I am sure are being respectfully addressed."
This is a matter of semantics. There where no downloads during the Dead's heyday and the argument is moot. It's like discussing whether Thomas Jefferson would have approved of the microwave oven. It wasn't available. I think that downloading and trading is one in the same. You are free to disagree with this and I don't think we could reach a mutual agreement. Sorry.Fourthly, trading, downloading from a server is not trading. The band never allowed mass distribution of their music they allowed person-to=person trades without an exchange of money even if it were just the cost of the media
You're gonna laugh at my answer, but here goes: To support the band. I own almost all their DVD's, and most of Dick's Pick's. They are far better than the free downloads that I got off of Archives.Fifthly, Dick's Picks, why would anyone in their right mind buy a $30 CD when you can have nearly the same quality free?
This goes back to the tablature argument of which I also disagree with. If I play Midnight Hour in my bar band in some dive in Carborro, do I have to pay for it? Should every band who does a cover have to pay? I say no.Sixthly, the GD paid royalties to people whose music they cover. It's the same reason Ed & Gregg took down many tabs all because of royalties. It's simple finances. The GD performed the music people got SBDs and now artists are not getting their royalties they deserve.
You may be right about this, but the fact is that they are incredibly prevalent, so much so that I don't think it was done without some knowledge and "looking the other way" by the band.Finally, the point that too many emotional people lost is that we never should have had the SBDs to begin with and just fucking appreciate what we have.
How can you be so sure?AUDs are what Jerry was referring to
AUDs are what you cannot get on DPs
AUDs are what the fans own
I'm not mad at all. If I came off as such, I apologize. I'm just disappointed in a decision I feel is not warranted.It's really laughable that people are mad at someone who made a decision that they were legally obligated to do.
I like this point. One must realize that Bobby and the rest have a life I could only dream about. They get to play music on many nights to hundreds of thousands (though tapes) of people, party, get laid, and adored by fans all over the world. They make millions in the process. They started a whole generation on taping and searching out the best quality tapes of each show, and then when an avenue becomes available, they shut it down and quickly change their mindset. Barlow still is bummed about it. I do thank them for their talent. I am still a huge fan.Ya, sure you were a loyal fan but they worked their assess off while a bunch of kids got stoned and listened for 30 fucking years and your position is well I bought concert tickets and CDs and should never have had SBDs to begin with but was fortunate enough to so now I think I deserve them even if that means that people who supported the organization get canned
If that is the case, then I truly apologize. I was in/on the scene from '81 on and I think I'm not part of the 'gimme' people. I paid for shows. I bought cd's. I can site numerous examples of giving to the Dead and the scene where others didn't. I never expected a free ticket. In fact, I never, NEVER said "I NEED a miracle, or even I NEED a ticket." I always said "WANT" because that is really what it boiled down to and I disagreed with the "gimme" people. I'm sorry if I give off that vibe, because that is not what I'm trying to portray. I don't feel they should gimme, or that I need. I only want it and I still haven't seen an argument that has swayed me. But, again, thanks for the eloquent response. -amyjaredThat attitude of gimme, gimme, gimme is what KILLED the scened. Add one part GIMME and one part TouchHead and you wonder why the scene turned to shit.
PS. Did you check out the link?
"The only funeral you should ever try to interrupt is your own, and that should be a full-time job." -Kinky Friedman