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 #12589  by caspersvapors
 Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:42 pm
thinking about getting one, are they all pretty much the same? got any rec's? seems many (Jerry, Jimi, EC) used Vox...

 #12594  by spilly
 Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:40 am
I've been using a Mister Crybaby Super for years now, the benifit of this model is that when not being used as a wah it doebles as a volume pedal, plus it has a volume boost button on the side, and an overall vollume nob above it so you can ajust volume while the effect is actually on

 #12599  by strumminsix
 Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:54 am
All wah pedals are not the same. Try them all out!

Some diffs are the sweep and depth of the effect.
Remember, they really kinda just a tone-variable filter effect

 #12611  by tigerstrat
 Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:13 am
There's no conclusive evidence of Jerry using a Vox. The first known photos showing a wah are from approx 7/2/71, and its a ColorSound wah (which admittedly does look a lot like a Vox, esp when the top of the chrome rocker is hidden. Vox ones have a large "Vox" logo, Colorsound is wider and has a plain Chrome top at least viewed from a distance.

From mid-71 thru pics from 4/17 & 5/7/72 and 8/27/72 are all Colorsound. I don't know what he had in 73, but in the next known wah pic from 10/18/74 he has an all-black wah that looks more like a Crybaby or a Thomas Organ (maybe that is the same thing as a Vox?). In 76-78ish, the word is that he used a Mu-Tron wah, although he seems to have used it less and less, in addition to the newly added OctDiv and the III, and most consistently for GSET, eventually switching to envelope-only or envelope + phase for that song.

Check out the Teese/ Real McCoy wahs. He's got the RMC-1,2 & 3 and the Picture and Wizard Wahs. I've only gotten to play on an RMC-3 for a lil bit but it was niiiiiice. Just as nice as my 70's Thomas Organ Crybaby!

 #12636  by caspersvapors
 Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:31 pm
oh, well thats what GD Gear said in it

 #12637  by BigJilm
 Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:53 pm
Ive had my Ibanez Weeping Demon for over a year now, works beautifully and only cost me about 70 bucks, great for Hendrix tunes

 #13284  by acidrain30005
 Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:45 pm
A regular Dunlop CryBaby sound pretty good. It's what I use.

 #13288  by Crazy 9.5 Fingers
 Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:07 pm
I've used them all. I like the Tiger recommended Teese wah, which is nice as you can set the Q, the sweep, and tweak a few other things I recall. The downside of that is having to spend time tweaking it, and then if you change guitars and things like that, it might not be where u want it. OVerall it does sound great. Pretty sure Trey was using one for a while. At least I had those problems. Another downside to the Teese is the price. If you don't mind spending above $250, go with the Fulltone Clyde Wah. I use one and it is by far the best one I have played with. Great tone, still plenty of presence when you have it pulled all the way back, and a nice, even, gradual user friendly sweep.

 #13294  by tigerstrat
 Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:53 pm
For a slightly longer sweep on a Dunlop style wah, you can remove the little rubber bumper at the rear of the rocker.

 #13363  by groovemongrel
 Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:10 pm
I use the Crybaby Classic. Both Vox and Crybaby's are made by Dunlap are exactly the same inside.

 #13378  by caspersvapors
 Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:18 pm
umm im pretty sure theyre seperate companies, and yeah im probably gonna go with one of those, I dont have 250 bucks to spend on pedals

 #13381  by shakedown_04092
 Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:37 pm
For what it's worth, I traded in my Crybaby something or other (the one that doubles as a volume pedal) for a Vox and am very happy with the trade I made.

 #15638  by jackaroe1276
 Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:44 pm
I guess I'm a little off the beaten path. I use a Zvex Wah Probe. It doesn't actually have a rocker pedal, it uses a radio frequency "bubble" that sense an object near it much like a theramin. the cool thing about it is the frequency it different in numorous areas, so you get a compltely different sound wagging your foot side to side as opposed to traditionally tapping it up and don. Using a combination really opens up possibilities. The only real drawback is because it uses a radio frequency, it might suddenly pick up a radio station (though very rarely). This would only occur when active AND not playing anything.

 #15641  by caspersvapors
 Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:22 am
shakedown_04092 wrote:For what it's worth, I traded in my Crybaby something or other (the one that doubles as a volume pedal) for a Vox and am very happy with the trade I made.
about a month ago, I picked up a V-847 on craigslist for 65 bones, Im quite happy as well

thanks for the input assholes

 #30647  by paulinnc
 Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:12 pm
I have a dunlop crybaby that I don't use because it is messed up inside. I plan on getting a drop in wah kit from byoc and getting it back on track. It should be a fun little project.