Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:20 am

Never noticed that before ...

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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:21 am

Fall, too ...

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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby strumminsix » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:50 am

I don't see any E120s.


all I see are SHORT SHORTS!!! AHH!

Kidding....

that is interesting. Listening the that show now:
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby tigerstrat » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:21 am

Kinda interesting that in the fall pic, all 4 speakers are miked up.

Don't the Gauss drivers that he used also have the metallic dust cap? Maybe the surround or the cone itself looks different on those, or it probably would have been mentioned already.
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:22 pm

The way I remember that cabinet, it had speakers with black dustcaps, not metal ... this photo shows it if you look hard.

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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby Chuckles » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:25 am

Just going from the gasket colors, fall '87 looks like Gauss top left with the others JBLs; the third pic looks like Gausses left and JBLs right. Spring '87 pic you can only see the left-hand side and do appear to be JBL (maybe the cab was flipped?).
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby jonarobb » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:50 am

The Gauss 2841's that Weir favored had a much wider accordion surround. Those drivers from the looks of the picture have the rolled cloth surround of a JBL.
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby Chuckles » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:26 am

jonarobb wrote:The Gauss 2841's that Weir favored had a much wider accordion surround. Those drivers from the looks of the picture have the rolled cloth surround of a JBL.

Hmmm... methinks you are right. But what were in the BW cabs then? We know reconed JBLs never come with alternate gaskets or anything, right? :roll:

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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby Pete B. » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:47 am

I recall an interview with Bobby where he stated that he had gone to using "full range" speakers (like stereo speakers).
Anyone recall what years and what model speakers those were?... (or a link to that interview)?
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:11 am

In 1988 he had what looks like Gauss speakers in his 4X12.

By 1990, he had those full range cabinets under the drum riser, with those weird looking "bullet" horns on 'em.

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By the fall of 90, he had a pair of regular looking monitors with a woofer and conventional horn.

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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby tigerstrat » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:17 pm

playingdead wrote:In 1988 he had what looks like Gauss speakers in his 4X12.

By 1990, he had those full range cabinets under the drum riser, with those weird looking "bullet" horns on 'em.


Pretty sure he had those "bullets" by September of '88, as I seem to recall noticing them at Cap Centre during Space on the 3rd or 4th night. He was running his MIDI rig by that time, anyway- gongs and chimes and church bells galore.

Are they Meyer, perhaps?
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby SarnoMusicSolutions » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:34 pm

Aren't those Meyer MSL speakers under the drum riser? I recall, vaguely, that in '86 Bobby had those and there was a very kazoo-like, crispy, zingy top end coming off the stage. I thought he got those to overpower Healy in case Dan didn't put Bobby up in the mains loud enough. Bobby's on-stage PA. I much preferred Bob's tone with the Gauss or JBL 12" speakers over the full-range PA cab's. Those things were too hi-fi and full-range for guitar.


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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby deadguise » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:37 pm

Poor Bob, nobody (the pillars of power: Jerry & Phil) wanted him on their side of the stage...
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:29 am

Weir moved his speakers to the drum riser to narrow the line. Healy talked about it in an interview; they found that they could get everyone closer together so they could all hear each other better instead of relying on individual monitor mixes. "It's best to hear Jerry from Jerry's speakers."

He said, "You reach a point of diminishing returns with monitors. We've taken it to that place. You can have your monitor scene so well set up, so efficient, that you can isolate yourself from everybody. But then look what you've done."

When Weir moved to the center, that's when they discovered it was better if Jerry and Phil switched sides, presumably so he could hear Brent and Brent could hear him. I always thought Jerry had a set of Brent's speakers next to his rig 79-81; there was a pair of 15" JBLs and a pair of K-110s i sandwiched between Jerry's cabinet E-120s and Bobby's cabinet.
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Re: Weir using E-120s in spring 87?

Postby playingdead » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:31 am

Anybody notice there's only two clips on each JBL in Jerry's cabinet in 1990?

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