Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:19 am

I just got my first recording of Jerry using Bolt, '93 is the year. I know what woods were used, the scale length, and the volute on the back of the neck. What I'm interested in knowing is what controls does Bolt use? Are they similar to Rosebud? What pups are in it, and what type of bridge is that? I guess I'm just interested in the hardware/electronic aspects of Bolt, (what knob does what, buffers, how did the piezo work) I truly love the sound it gets. I know a lot of you Original Heads don't care for the mid 90s sound, and that's fine by me, I never got to see them live so I don't have a "golden age" memory to recall. I just enjoy it all, my favorite years are '66-95. :peas: Any help is welcome, and any suggested listening is encouraged.
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby Searing75 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:42 am

Suggested listening?? Yikes! Just keep listening to it all! :cool:

The pickups were Dimarzio Super II's. Three of them. The guitar had the onboard effects loop, and the buffer, just like his others. Volume knob, and tone knobs, switch for the OBEL, and switches to split the coils of the pickups. I am not sure what bridge it is exactly, or how the piezo works, but check out Waldelectronics for more info on the Bolt.

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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:59 am

Searing75 wrote:Suggested listening?? Yikes! Just keep listening to it all! :cool:

The pickups were Dimarzio Super II's. Three of them. The guitar had the onboard effects loop, and the buffer, just like his others. Volume knob, and tone knobs, switch for the OBEL, and switches to split the coils of the pickups. I am not sure what bridge it is exactly, or how the piezo works, but check out Waldelectronics for more info on the Bolt.

I have a Phiga Bolt, an love it!!!


Thanks! I will definitely follow that suggested listening advice! How does that Phiga play? I've always been the Wolf type, but after hearing Bolt, I am most interested. So many guitar choices, just show me something built to last! Seriously though, I might look into getting something with Bolt electronics in a different body. Thanks again!
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:48 am

Mr. Wald, do you have any specific info on this guitar? I checked the site, but it took me back to the Cripe site. It's a cool page but that is where I learned about the wood, length, and volute. There's not much on the electronics to it.

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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby mikelawson » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:21 am

I have a Phiga Bolt as well, and haven't pulled any of my guitars out of their cases since I got it. Phil's woodwork is amazing. The setup I asked for I got right on delivery, it plays like butter with very low action, as Les Paul-like, just as I wanted. Had to get used to 24 frets after 20+ years of solid LP playing. SDs, all coil tapping, five way switch, OBEL, plus he installed the Ghost MIDI system in it. Weighs in about 8 lbs or so, which is about the same or less than any of my LPs weigh. I am delighted.
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TI4-1009 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:25 pm

From what I've read when Tophat arrived the Cripe wiring came out and it went to Brawer for "the standard Garcia electronics package", so it's probably pretty close to Rosebud?

Steve Kimock owns a Cripe or two and he's very accessible, you can sometimes catch him over at The Gear Page on the Luthier's forum, or his Facebook page? Plus there's a Cripe owner here too- I think he's, uh, "cripeowner" :-)
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby myoung6923 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:44 pm

Searing75 wrote:Suggested listening?? Yikes! Just keep listening to it all! :cool:

The pickups were Dimarzio Super II's. Three of them. The guitar had the onboard effects loop, and the buffer, just like his others. Volume knob, and tone knobs, switch for the OBEL, and switches to split the coils of the pickups. I am not sure what bridge it is exactly, or how the piezo works, but check out Waldelectronics for more info on the Bolt.

I have a Phiga Bolt, an love it!!!


Just for the record, Jerry never used a piezo. That sound in the 90's came from them switching to in-ear monitors and removing all speakers from the stage. That bright tone came from Jerry's rig going direct to the board. I have heard something about having an off stage speaker that was mic'ed also - but I don't know for sure. But definitely he never used a piezo in any of his guitars.
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:04 pm

myoung6923 wrote:
Searing75 wrote:Suggested listening?? Yikes! Just keep listening to it all! :cool:

The pickups were Dimarzio Super II's. Three of them. The guitar had the onboard effects loop, and the buffer, just like his others. Volume knob, and tone knobs, switch for the OBEL, and switches to split the coils of the pickups. I am not sure what bridge it is exactly, or how the piezo works, but check out Waldelectronics for more info on the Bolt.

I have a Phiga Bolt, an love it!!!


Just for the record, Jerry never used a piezo. That sound in the 90's came from them switching to in-ear monitors and removing all speakers from the stage. That bright tone came from Jerry's rig going direct to the board. I have heard something about having an off stage speaker that was mic'ed also - but I don't know for sure. But definitely he never used a piezo in any of his guitars.


Ah, alright I didn't know about the piezo thing. So of I look into putting one together I could still have the three pups, all the coil switching, and just leave off the midi and piezo I could still get Jerry tones?
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby myoung6923 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:06 pm

TruckinThruTennessee wrote:
myoung6923 wrote:
Searing75 wrote:Suggested listening?? Yikes! Just keep listening to it all! :cool:

The pickups were Dimarzio Super II's. Three of them. The guitar had the onboard effects loop, and the buffer, just like his others. Volume knob, and tone knobs, switch for the OBEL, and switches to split the coils of the pickups. I am not sure what bridge it is exactly, or how the piezo works, but check out Waldelectronics for more info on the Bolt.

I have a Phiga Bolt, an love it!!!


Just for the record, Jerry never used a piezo. That sound in the 90's came from them switching to in-ear monitors and removing all speakers from the stage. That bright tone came from Jerry's rig going direct to the board. I have heard something about having an off stage speaker that was mic'ed also - but I don't know for sure. But definitely he never used a piezo in any of his guitars.


Ah, alright I didn't know about the piezo thing. So of I look into putting one together I could still have the three pups, all the coil switching, and just leave off the midi and piezo I could still get Jerry tones?


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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:06 pm

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Fantastic! you proud Phiga Bolt owners have got me thinking. Do you think I could order a stripped down Bolt with less intricate wood work on the body, no piezo or midi, no fret inlay or special Bolt body inlay from Phiga?
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby mikelawson » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:11 pm

TruckinThruTennessee wrote:^

Fantastic! you proud Phiga Bolt owners have got me thinking. Do you think I could order a stripped down Bolt with less intricate wood work on the body, no piezo or midi, no fret inlay or special Bolt body inlay from Phiga?


It can't hurt to email Phil and ask him.
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:10 pm

mikelawson wrote:
TruckinThruTennessee wrote:^

Fantastic! you proud Phiga Bolt owners have got me thinking. Do you think I could order a stripped down Bolt with less intricate wood work on the body, no piezo or midi, no fret inlay or special Bolt body inlay from Phiga?


It can't hurt to email Phil and ask him.


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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TI4-1009 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:34 pm

I found Phil to be very flexible when he made my Tiger. You could add or delete just about anything from the typical model.
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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TruckinThruTennessee » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:59 pm

TI4-1009 wrote:I found Phil to be very flexible when he made my Tiger. You could add or delete just about anything from the typical model.


Thanks, I'm still waiting for a reply, but I'm excited to see what he can do. Thanks again guys :peas:

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Re: Cripe Lightning Bolt Question

Postby TI4-1009 » Thu May 01, 2014 6:26 am

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