TruckinThruTennessee wrote:I love the sound Phil gets at the Fillmore West and Fillmore East shows in 69, I'm wondering can anybody tell me anything they know about that bass, I've read all the post concerning Phil's SG bass, but I'm not looking for any one thing I'm looking for just everything in general about that bass. also feel free to put anything you know about Phil 69 rig just so I can figure out how to get those tones a little easier. amplification, strings, anything at all will be greatly appreciated thanks in advance guys.
TruckinThruTennessee wrote:Thanks so much! The albums I'm referring to are 2-11-69 at the Fillmore east and Fillmore west 1969 the extended album that Live/Dead was taken from I believe. That tone is just ringing in my head. Thanks again!
Bass: Gibson SG (maybe EB-0, maybe EB-3, there is some debate)
Rusty the Scoob wrote:Bass: Gibson SG (maybe EB-0, maybe EB-3, there is some debate)
My 2 cents on that debate: in 1960 an EB0 and EB3 were identical except that the EB3 had a little extra routing for the bridge pickup and a few extra holes in the control cavity for the extra knobs. They are otherwise identical, a 4-string, 30.5" scale neck stuck onto an SG body. To my thinking it makes absolutely no difference if they started with an EB0 and routed out a space for the bridge pickup or started with an EB3 and enlarged it to fit the Hagstrom.
My guess is they started with an EB3 though, since the extra pot holes exactly match the ones from the factory. I think if it had been an EB0 they would have just added pots any old place they wanted and there's plenty of room in the cavity for alternate placements. An EB3 was also only a little extra money and the band had plenty of funds in '69, although they also probably would have just bought whatever the local music store had as long as Phil liked playing it enough.
So Live Dead was the Starfire! I had been thinking it was the modded EB all these years. I've always sort of assumed they liked what they had with the modded Starfire (future Godfather) but wanted to do even more work on it, so they picked up a Gibson to stick the electronics into so he could keep playing it while they constructed the Godfather. But I have no actual proof of this theory, it just makes logical sense to me given the progression of both instruments: Stock Starfire > Starfire with Modded electronics > EB with the modded electronics from the Starfire > Godfather
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