GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby Pete B. » Fri May 17, 2013 7:22 am

Is there a Dead/JGB song with a very basic/blatent Augmented chord?
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby tcsned » Fri May 17, 2013 8:24 am

I can't think of one. Did they ever do Chuck Berry's "School Days"?
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby Tennessee Jedi » Fri May 17, 2013 8:29 am

What is a augmented chord ?
I looked it up but I am dense
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby tcsned » Fri May 17, 2013 9:04 am

A chord with all chord tones a major third apart. Like C-E-G# - a lot of 50s tunes used it, the first chord in School Days, the Beatles' Oh Darling. A good lead-in chord. An easy way to play one is to take the 4 string F chord shape (xx3211) and drop everything down a string (x3211x). Play that chord then a G major after it.
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby ebick » Fri May 17, 2013 9:08 am

Start with a major scale and # 5th note.

So for C

your major scale is C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C

your major chord is

C-E-G

C+ (augmented) would be

C-E-G#
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby tcsned » Fri May 17, 2013 9:15 am

. . . and it's one of the three equidistant scales -
Like the whole tone and diminished all the notes are the same distance apart.
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby jeffm725 » Fri May 17, 2013 9:28 am

Pete,
Jerry's cover of "Its too late" has a juicy augmented chord in it. In fact its the first chord of the song!

Also C+ (Augs are written as "+" as Im sure you know) is part of the "Jerry Style" Dear Prudence walkdown.
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby rugger » Fri May 17, 2013 9:36 am

Yup, raise the 5th for augmented, often denoted with a plus sign (+). Diminished chords--flat the 3rd and the 5th. Learn it!

Another nice sound is to augment the tonic. Try playing an open chord E for a bar and then E+ for a bar (using the F shape tscned mentioned x3211x). It will probably sound familiar to you.

It can also be used as a substitute in the 12th bar for the 5 chord in a blues. To clarify, instead of playing a dom7 5 chord play an augmented 5 chord.

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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby Pete B. » Fri May 17, 2013 9:40 am

jeffm725 wrote:Pete,
Jerry's cover of "Its too late" has a juicy augmented chord in it. In fact its the first chord of the song!

Also C+ (Augs are written as "+" as Im sure you know) is part of the "Jerry Style" Dear Prudence walkdown.


Yes, It's too Late is like the first chord in the Allman Bros Stormy Monday.
Alot of songs use it as a passing chord like Dear Prudence also.
If you play that lick backwards you are basically playing "Because" by the Dave Clark Five.

I guess I'm wondering if there were any GD Member written songs with a blatent Augmented chord.
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby mttourpro » Fri May 17, 2013 12:51 pm

Half-Step comes to mind.....they liked diminished a lot more than Augmented. Victim prolly has a some augmented chords in it but I don't play that one so I'm not sure about that.
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby tigerstrat » Fri May 17, 2013 1:27 pm

A certain recurring Space lick comes to mind. :D
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby mkaufman » Fri May 17, 2013 1:29 pm

The augmented chord is used in a harmonic minor key (ie: not the Dorian mode of the major scale). The Dead played very few non-Dorian minor songs.

If you see a 7#9 chord (ie: E7#9), or when you have two major chords that are a half step apart (like F->E, or F -> E7#9), the augmented can come into play. (thinking of West LA Fadeway here).

I use it in Let It Grow during the Am jam.

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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby Tennessee Jedi » Fri May 17, 2013 1:41 pm

mkaufman wrote:
If you see a 7#9 chord (ie: E7#9), or when you have two major chords that are a half step apart (like F->E, or F -> E7#9), the augmented can come into play. (thinking of West LA Fadeway here).

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Is that the same kind of chord as the 1st chord of Golden Road ?
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby ebick » Fri May 17, 2013 2:52 pm

Till The Morning Comes has that E7+9 chord over "Tell You What I'll Do"
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Re: GD Song with basic Augmented chord???

Postby tigerstrat » Fri May 17, 2013 9:46 pm

The 9th is augmented (or sharp) in a 7+9 (R, 3, 5 b7,#9) but is different from an Aug triad (R, 3, #5).

In the 7#9 you are getting distinct dissonant flavors off the M7 interval between the 3 and the #9, whereas in the Aug, it is much more subtle, more like an ambiguity of its tightly wrapped ball of maj and minor 3rds. Aug is frequently a passing tone because it wants so much to resolve one way or the other... while Sharp 9 says "I 've broken free and am going THIS way!"
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