Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby ricepr » Mon May 06, 2013 7:44 am

possible with higher output single coils? Thanks
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby caspersvapors » Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 pm

Im thinking P90s would get you closer to that tone. Find some really metallic sounding pickups
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby tigerstrat » Tue May 07, 2013 7:59 am

the sustain characteristic is not even going to be in the ballpark.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby Marlow » Tue May 07, 2013 11:44 am

I spent a while trying out different Strat pickups for a TB500 sound, and the closest I got was a Dimarzio Virtual Vintage Solo. It wasn't very close, though. This thread might be interesting, since it's on a similar general topic:

viewtopic.php?f=426&t=13308
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby tigerstrat » Tue May 07, 2013 11:55 am

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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby pablomago » Sun May 19, 2013 6:25 pm

I had a TB-500 that I foolishly sold. I don't think you'll get even close with a Strat. You're better off with a Double Cut Les Paul Jr. with two P-90's. And that won't get you the bright sustain.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby Mr.Burns » Mon May 20, 2013 6:01 am

It's funny how this seems to be his most elusive tone, yet it came from a factory-built guitar.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby jalevinemd » Mon May 20, 2013 6:54 am

Which is a testimonial to how much of that particular tone came from the unique construction of the TB.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby Jon S. » Mon May 20, 2013 7:10 am

If we're talking "closer" rather than identical, perhaps try a 2TEK bridge.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby jeffm725 » Mon May 20, 2013 9:55 am

Mr.Burns wrote:It's funny how this seems to be his most elusive tone, yet it came from a factory-built guitar.




Thats because those Bean pickups are so damn unique. Nothing sounds quite like them. A friend of mine has an Artist and one of the pickups is broken and people have been telling him for years that they can wind him a "work-alike" but it never sounds like the other original thats in there. Those pickups make a difference. I have played a Bean with Dimarzios in it, and it doesnt sound "right" to me.

Obviously the aluminum design of the neck and the way the body attaches is a huge part of it, but change those stock pickups out and things REALLY change.
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby SpaceYrface43 » Wed May 22, 2013 8:24 am

I was searching out some Travis Beans to Kill some time and ran across this web site. Anyone know anything about these guys. Guitars look nice and the price tag isn't to bad. I like the EGC-500.

http://www.electricalguitarcompany.com/
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby waldo041 » Wed May 22, 2013 2:24 pm

Not sure if it is those guys, but somebody is making decent Travis Bean 500 clones. A jerry version just sold on ebay a couple months back at a workingmans price.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200 ... =824&kw=lg


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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby Marlow » Wed May 22, 2013 4:51 pm

Kevin over at EGC is a good guy. He wound me three TB500 repro pups for a TB500 project guitar, years ago. I still have the pickups but can't decide on a body/neck config. I'm bad at that sort of thing.

Anyway, back in 2006 I emailed Frank Kelleher with technical questions about Jerry's TB500 pickups, and this is the answer I received. What a great, generous guy to answer a perfect stranger with this kind of detail. Maybe someone will be able to make use of this info:

"On one of the first, or perhaps on the first TB500 he
ordered, he requested these features:
3 "stock" pickups (6K ohm single coils)
Bournes ultra pots
3 individual mini toggles (on/off each pickup)

I don't remember any discussion of a reverse polarity
middle pickup, but it was 30 years ago! The wiring I
recall was very straightforward, i.e. any pickup on or
off - parallel - in phase.

However .... that git came back for tweaking not too
long thereafter & I was heartbroken to see that they'd
yanked it all out & put in God only knows what. Active
electronics shoehorned in by someone with 10 thumbs.
Not a clean job to be sure. My fuzzy memory says they
were low impedance pickups paired with some sort of
Alembic type of onboard preamp, but I guess it COULD
have been the P-90 deal. To my knowledge WE never put
P-90s in anything for him, nor is it likely we would
have if asked."
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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby waldo041 » Thu May 23, 2013 6:19 am

Marlow wrote:Kevin over at EGC is a good guy. He wound me three TB500 repro pups for a TB500 project guitar, years ago. I still have the pickups but can't decide on a body/neck config. I'm bad at that sort of thing.

Anyway, back in 2006 I emailed Frank Kelleher with technical questions about Jerry's TB500 pickups, and this is the answer I received. What a great, generous guy to answer a perfect stranger with this kind of detail. Maybe someone will be able to make use of this info:

"On one of the first, or perhaps on the first TB500 he
ordered, he requested these features:
3 "stock" pickups (6K ohm single coils)
Bournes ultra pots
3 individual mini toggles (on/off each pickup)

I don't remember any discussion of a reverse polarity
middle pickup, but it was 30 years ago! The wiring I
recall was very straightforward, i.e. any pickup on or
off - parallel - in phase.

However .... that git came back for tweaking not too
long thereafter & I was heartbroken to see that they'd
yanked it all out & put in God only knows what. Active
electronics shoehorned in by someone with 10 thumbs.
Not a clean job to be sure. My fuzzy memory says they
were low impedance pickups paired with some sort of
Alembic type of onboard preamp, but I guess it COULD
have been the P-90 deal. To my knowledge WE never put
P-90s in anything for him, nor is it likely we would
have if asked."


Thanks for the info.

Jerry's TB500's always had the stock pickups in them. I am sure that these statements reflect that "fuzzy" memory and are actually of both combined TB500 & TB1000a recollections. His original TB1000a was returned and a replacement was sent back that has to be the one he remembers the pickups being changed in because the new one gets custom TB single coils epoxied into a humbucker cover when he gets it back.

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Re: Travis Bean 77 tone with a strat?

Postby mgbills » Thu May 23, 2013 7:51 am

So are those P90's on #12 stock P90's, or a TB special P90?

I've been jonesing around the idea of dropping a TB500 #12 style PU in a Strat. Idea is to make a custom insert out of aluminum for the swimming pool route with individual pockets for pickups. Very snug fit. Possibly even creating a buttress of sorts to a custom bridge. Series 1 would be an SDS-1, TB500, Dimarzio Super 2. Cover it all with a custom pickguard, and keep my favored Tiger wiring schemata.

Big job. I have to find the right CNC guy to make some mucho custom parts.

That TB knock off was really cool. Too bad there will only be 3.
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