Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby Winterland » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:05 pm

Started a discussion about mounting pedals. Anybody have any pics on how to set it up.
I have a 16 u rack furman>Tuner>SMS>MC2100>2x12 JBL's

The pedals are: MutronIII>TS>Boss OD>DD3 (currently in a pedal board. I want to mount them in the rack case
to consoilidate eveything. Do I get a 1u Drawer and velcro them? Has anybody tried this and had it work?

I am also wondering about mounting the MC2100 in the bottom of the rack case.

Any help would be appricated.
Winterland
Jester
Jester
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 12:22 pm
Location: PA

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby strumminsix » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:11 pm

User avatar
strumminsix
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6641
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:13 am
Location: Chicago

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby Jerry1996x » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:55 pm

I have my pedals mounted vertically on a Moog rack plate for just that. Its $90 most places (which is stupid, i got mine used) but someone else on here found it somsewhere for less. It works great, but to save space a sliding shelf is just as good. Heres a scheme i made in paint for what cables go where for the GCX.

http://s1145.beta.photobucket.com/user/Jerry1996x/media/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajjj.png.html?sort=3&o=8#/user/Jerry1996x/media/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajjj.png.html?sort=3&o=8&_suid=135389119383002439990895898126

Ill get posting pics someday.... 8)
Jerry1996x
Steal Your Face
Steal Your Face
 
Posts: 217
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:08 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby playingdead » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:00 am

Rack drawer works very well.

Image
User avatar
playingdead
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1713
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:55 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby Winterland » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:07 am

Playingdead,

Is the GCX what you use to hook the pedals to? How do you then control them?
Winterland
Jester
Jester
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 12:22 pm
Location: PA

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby gpilcher2001 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:42 am

GO TOO VOODOO LABS WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE GCX AND THE GROUND CONTROL. THEY HAVE A WORKSHEET ON THERE THAT SHOWS YOU VISUALLY WHAT THESE ITEMS DO AS FAR AS SWITCHING PEDALS, MIDI CHANNELS, AMP CHANNELS........ YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE MANUALS FOR BOTH ITEMS TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. Greg...

Follow these links
http://www.voodoolab.com/gcontrolpro.htm
http://www.voodoolab.com/gcx.htm
good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor.....
User avatar
gpilcher2001
Terrapin
Terrapin
 
Posts: 159
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:54 pm
Location: colorado

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby playingdead » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:16 am

Winterland wrote:Playingdead,

Is the GCX what you use to hook the pedals to? How do you then control them?


You put each pedal into one loop on the GCX and use the Ground Control Pro floor unit to activate the loops you want inserted into your signal path. The pedals themselves are always on, you just bypass the ones you are not using at the moment. Makes a huge difference in the quality of your signal compared to a traditional pedal board with all the effects chained together.
User avatar
playingdead
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1713
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:55 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby rugger » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:14 am

strumminsix wrote:Here's how I did it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/ ... 799317.pbw


Linky no worky.

john in san diego
rugger
Rosemary
Rosemary
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:24 am

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby JonnyBoy » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:28 am

I have to agree with PD, the GCX really helps tame pedals and remove variables from the signal so you always get what you want from your effects. To enhance the system further, an effects loop in your guitar ala Jerry, you will have even more consistency. I never make adjustments to my effects during a show when my effects are set the way I like them. Sometimes during transport certain sensitive pedals shift and bump and need tweaked. Most of the time not. I use a rack like Jerry with shelves for my effects all plugged into a GCX. Then run one thin midi cord from the GCX to the ground control pedal At the foot of my mic stand. You can set the loops in the ground control to include multiple loops or just one. You can't swap the order of the loops though. So you set up the GCX in the order you would set up a regular pedal board so when you engage multiple loops it will sound it's best.ie: plug in your delays/modulation last and distortions/envelope first in the 8 chain of loops. Unlike a pedal board the signal never enters the bypassed pedals, so you can avoid tone sucking. You can hook up multiple pedals in a single loop too, I use a ge7 and a distortion pedal in one loop. It is a great system, but expensive for sure. Good luck!
http://otislotus.net/ Finally finished our new site...
User avatar
JonnyBoy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2134
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:35 am
Location: the south swamps

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby strumminsix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:07 am

rugger wrote:
strumminsix wrote:Here's how I did it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/ ... 799317.pbw


Linky no worky.

john in san diego

John, I think it's cuz photobucket is updating itself. Does this work?

http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/st ... 7.pbw.html
User avatar
strumminsix
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6641
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:13 am
Location: Chicago

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby Smolder » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:12 am

That looks like a very cool system. $800 isn't cheap though. If your a touring/giggin musician...

I've read a lot of interviews where Jerry discusses the efforts to tame pedals to a consistent performance state - mostly as an explanation for the OBEL. Not sure what I'm not hearing and if it's my hearing, the lack of knowing what I'm missing, or maybe I'm just not playing the kind of venues that muck with the signal. My pedals, on the floor, seem to work reliably and sound great.

oh and strumminsix, that last link works. Photobucket has been mucking up the site lately... not a fan of the newest beta version.
Smolder
Senior Member
 
Posts: 614
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:42 am
Location: 8152 feet... in the rockies.

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby playingdead » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:15 am

I thought that, too, until I started using the GCX and I was amazed at the difference it makes. And that was with the OBEL, as well.
User avatar
playingdead
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1713
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:55 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby strumminsix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:45 am

Thanks for confirming that, smolder!

playingdead wrote:I thought that, too, until I started using the GCX and I was amazed at the difference it makes.

+1

Also, there are other controllers out there. Examples:
$25-150 Ground Link w/8 buttons, no programming, turns on any of the 8 loops
Mod'd Behringer FCB
Any MIDI foot controller that allows you to turn on and off cc 80-87
User avatar
strumminsix
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6641
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:13 am
Location: Chicago

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby Mr.Burns » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:59 am

strumminsix wrote:Also, there are other controllers out there. Examples:
$25-150 Ground Link w/8 buttons, no programming, turns on any of the 8 loops
Mod'd Behringer FCB
Any MIDI foot controller that allows you to turn on and off cc 80-87


What mods are required for the Behringer FCB? Already have one collecting dust, it could be worth looking into?
Image
User avatar
Mr.Burns
Phil
Phil
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:01 pm
Location: Far out, man.

Re: Rack mount effects pedals ideas

Postby strumminsix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:13 pm

Mr.Burns wrote:
strumminsix wrote:Also, there are other controllers out there. Examples:
$25-150 Ground Link w/8 buttons, no programming, turns on any of the 8 loops
Mod'd Behringer FCB
Any MIDI foot controller that allows you to turn on and off cc 80-87


What mods are required for the Behringer FCB? Already have one collecting dust, it could be worth looking into?

Not 100% sure of the mod. Read about it years ago when I bought one but I returned it instead. You'll have to google it since my knowledge is way outdated!
User avatar
strumminsix
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6641
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:13 am
Location: Chicago

Next

Return to Jerry Tone

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests