Smolder wrote:Been reading here for a while, and I'm trying to match what I read, with what I hear and do. I'm struggling with the 'just too damn loud' factor with fender twins. I'm basically running at half power with just two power tubes... And in practice this is set to a volume of 3-4, and live maybe getting to 6. And that's all without mic'ing the amps. Obviously I'm not playing stadiums, but 100-200 person rooms (normally concrete with a high ceiling).
What I'm wondering is how you guys are managing with these huge Mac amps? I was thinking about grabbing a mc-50, but read where many see them as too small. Is there a disconnect between the watt rating of macs and twins? What am I missing here?
I have been using my HRD III power section with my SMS as the preamp with awesome results. Although the tube amp sounds significantly different than a MAC, I still have good tone from it. Thank god there is a rear pad pot on the SMS to get the right amount of tube slamming. That really helps. A 100-200 person room and smaller is where I would take my 2- 6l6 power amp of the HRD. The tube sound is better in a cement box with people are 10 feet from my amp. Outdoors is where my MC 100 and 2x12 sings. At smaller places, it really doesn't do it justice to under power 2 JBL's and a 140 watt macintosh, I don't get the tone I want from it at low volumes. But that could be that it needs some component upgrades. The MC50 is great for lower volume gigs for sure, even up to some louder gigs. But at louder gigs you may reach the headroom cutoff and get unwanted distortion if you aren't micing, especially outdoors. The macs clipping is nice in moderation, too much it sounds shitty/frizzy.
Our band moved to the presonus board recently for recording which allows us to keep our stage volume low and use the mains/monitors for sound reinforcement, rather than cranking amps that aren't mic'd to keep up. I highly recommend switching to mic'ing in med/large rooms while keeping the stage volume low. Its more to set up and deal with, but a much more manageable sound for all. Plus we can keep the band from drowning out the vocals easier.
So, yes it is very possible to work only with an MC50 and call it done. Our rhythm guitarist uses an AC15 and mics it. That is only 15 watts and has never played a stage, even some big outdoor ones, that it didn't work well.