eric wrote:hey man, not a bass player , but would take the " box" as to mean they are speaking of the "box patterns" associated with scale patterns and perhaps the extended scale pattern " run" , which can be seen as a series of connecting boxes diagonally on the fretboard. They are all movable shapes in and to any key. Easily located off the root.
I would assume that they are suggesting that you " float" around "in the box positions" . I heard a good simple term the other day that I think sums up Phil's style : "he was a floating bass player". As long as you know those simple repeating box shapes, you can pretty much noodle around in it all day long.
I would say don't sweat the modal stuff until you get a very good grasp of the intervals of the major scale first, and start to pay attention to what intervals make up that particular box, in a few different positions, and then all the modal stuff will start to make sense. Knowing where your maj/minor 7th is and where your maj/minor 3rd are some good starting points .....I dunno man, hoped that helped and I didn't throw u off...my 2c
eric wrote:This guy explains it very well...
Lunchbox16 wrote:The only thing that I know of that comes close to this description is simply the minor pentatonic scale. That essentially creates a "box" on the fretboard as you move from string to string. I guess it depends on what the tune calls for, but keeping to the minor pentatonic doesn't seem too "Phil" to me, of course that depends also on what sounds/groove you're going for as well.
eric wrote:i will defer to a real bass player on that one .....btw , your band sounds grate!
Walknbluez wrote:eric wrote:i will defer to a real bass player on that one .....btw , your band sounds grate!
Thanks eric! BTW, it seems like "box pattern" talk is immediately recognized by guitar players but seems like something that bass players, even really good ones, don't know anything about. But then there is stuff online, i.e. your link that talks about it.
Walknbluez wrote:The song in question was "Don't Ease Me In". Easy two chord song but I'm not really playing it like Phil and I think I'm using the fifth (lower fifth) too much so there's too much of a cowboy tune feel to it. They want me to bounce around more and get rid of the cowboy feel. I've listened to several versions with Phil and I can't quite cop what he's doing so I decided to keep it simple when we first started but agree that it's time to venture out more. That's when the box pattern suggestion came. Here's a recording of the song....if it's not too much troube maybe you guys can critique my playing and give me some ideas how to venture out on this one (either using the box pattern theory or something else, whichever works)?
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