TI4-1009 wrote:Mandoborg wrote:These are the threads i always think about when Lieber comes sniffing around here with all his Doug Irwin BS. Granted this is a copy IRWINS design, but why would you even consider a guitar from someone who hasn't made a guitar in ages, probably take ages to get it, if at all, and you have to go through somebody else to talk to the guy your handing over your $$$$$$$ too ?? There are so many GREAT guitar builders today it's almost laughable what has become of the whole Lieber/Irwin thing. This work is top notch and a fair price for sure. Even the Phigas have come a LONG way. So when folks come on here and say that they might be able to get you a guitar by such and such on the thrid moon of the 14 month of the appocolypse after traveling the seven seas to find the maker......... look elsewhere.
This is not intended to be a dig at Lieber or Irwin, just a reality check, not only have builders closed in, they've surpassed.
With all due respect, I don't think statements like this are in the best interests of the board. I understand they reflect the opinions of the poster, and "it's a free country", but I think the Moderators should bend over backwards in the direction of not driving away some of the most significant visitors that we get here. Does Rick Turner ring a bell?? Comeon guys, use your heads! Count to 100, re-read your post a third time before hitting "submit".
Beautiful guitar Waldo!
Indeed all are entitled to their opinion but I would just like to put my personal experience in here. I do not know the circumstances surrounding Mr Irwin but I do know that very recently I have been in lengthy correspondance with Thomas Lieber about a guitar project. He was unfailingly courteous and produced some very firm qoutes and a timeline for when the guitar would be built. He presented options and ideas and was always available to talk with on the phone. I found him very pleasant to deal with.
And yes that is indeed a beautiful guitar Waldo ... one of these days maybe ,,,,