Liking my tone here China>Rider

Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:08 pm

Using my jonarob custom twin head with my 2x12 (ugh!) cab with 2 jbl m121's

Jonarobs head has two channels - one a fender 64 silverface and the other a mesa mk 4 I believe - gotta check on that. Either way it's got jasons (jonarobs) notion of mods (sorry, not sure what those are!)

Started using an A/B switch that also has an A & B setting thus mixes the 2 channels this gig - pretty sure that's what I have it set at here - A & B - got some more experimenting to do with this.

China>Rider from 12/10/11

http://www.archive.org/download/sbb2011 ... inaCat.mp3

http://www.archive.org/download/sbb2011 ... uRider.mp3


whole gig here- (this is our second gig recorded by someone other than us - that's pretty cool)

http://www.archive.org/details/sbb2011-12-10
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby mkaufman » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:08 pm

I suspect it's a '74 Silverface.

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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:18 pm

mkaufman wrote:I suspect it's a '74 Silverface.

mk


Well here's a little back and forth from me and jason from a post back then - not a ton to go on

Billbbill wrote:
So thanks a bunch to you all who've chimed in here - it's much appreciated.

So I took a ride down to Brooklyn yesterday after work to see Jason and, well, lets put it this way - I played one setup and left with it!

Jason, feel free to give more detail than I'll be able to but here's the breakdown - as I understood it! And that's not to say Jason didn't go to great lengths to explain everything - it's just that an old sponge can only hold so much water.

So it's a fender twin reverb head, morphed from a twin '76 case, (maybe just the plate - I think jason has the cases custom made) with '64 twin blackface circuitry on the primary channel and a custom Mesa Boogie-ish tone on the secondary channel. Secondary has a tone bypass switch as well for a straight signal.

Single reverb for both channels and master volume slot modded to a separate vibrato circuit that serves both channels as well.

Cab w/ 2x12 JBL m-120 - 8's. I certainly did my back no service with this - hand truck here I come! But does it sound nice! Headroom I'll never visit. Crisp, clean and warm.

Jason please add (or correct!) as you see fit.

I didn't even plug into anything else! Played this for about 2 hrs though I think I knew in the 1st 5 minutes.

Thanks Jason!

Thanks so much Bill...

Bill picked up a custom modified Twin Reverb Head, #27. Each one has been different to some degree based on client needs, etc. They all stay true to form insomuch as I adhere to all the stuff we've learned over the years about Garcia and Weir's rig. We matched Bill up with a bangin' 2x12" hardwood cab loaded with early 80's JBL M-121-8's.

The only thing I can add is that Bill is an amazingly talented guitarist with an uncanny touch and feel for the Jerry stuff. It was so great to hear one of my creations pushed hard by someone who knows his shit. Had a great time hanging with him.

#28 is on the bench today getting molested.

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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby mkaufman » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:34 am

Only because Silverface was later than '64 and during '74...

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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:33 am

Yea I mispoke - I'll trust my post from back then more than my memory now! It's blackface 64 - it seems.
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby mkaufman » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:47 am

Now we're talking!
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Tennessee Jedi » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:58 am

Beautiful tone and playing ! Inspired !
I guess the mesa channel is for JGB ? Jonnarob played some awesome JGB ...
Gotta add - Love the BOB guy - his tone and playing really compliment what your are playing
What a great guitar tandem
The crowd was clearly loving it too !
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:55 am

Tx Tom - Yea, we had some nice stuff going on this gig. If you haven't already I'd say check out, among other tracks, the scarlet, mississippi and lovelight. tx again!
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:58 am

Yea - guess so - (mesa channel) at least late 70's anyway, right? Damn I'm clueless!!

Mike (mkaufman) HAS the goods! Love playing with him!
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Pete B. » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:41 am

Bill,
I listened to those two links and it sounded like you solo'd right thru the entire Bobby part of the transition.
What happened to the Bobby guys part?
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:47 pm

Pete B. wrote:Bill,
I listened to those two links and it sounded like you solo'd right thru the entire Bobby part of the transition.
What happened to the Bobby guys part?
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Hey Pete - not sure what you're referencing - 6:40 there's the (sorry!) ba -dadada-da-da-da-dada deal - that what you're talking about? or the 'old' style. early seventies when bob actually TOOK a lead? If the former maybe it's just not that audible, but I'm guessing the latter - and I guess we aren't following that era so to speak. Though maybe we should!

Let me know if I'm even remotely 'warm' here! :)
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby playingdead » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:08 pm

Through 74 Weir played the entire middle section. Great licks.
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby mkaufman » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:23 pm

I'll get there - one day, I hope.

I'd settle for the Europe '72 lead!

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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby tapestry » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:32 pm

Bill and Mike, GREAT sounds out of both of you guys!
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Re: Liking my tone here China>Rider

Postby Billbbill » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:19 am

thanks a bunch mik! I still say my tone wants to be your tone when it grows up! ;)
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