Capt Rosebuddy wrote:After consulting Deadbase, it turns out that 6/17/75 was the first appearance (technically) of Help>Slip>Frank, but, Help is decidedly incomplete, no lyrics that is and the into is a little different. Seems more like a public fleshing out of the song structure to me. I say the Great American Music Hall version is the true first.
Ah, I must respectfully disagree as I had a chance to download and study in some detial the 6/17/75 show a few months back. I was really interested in what was happening during that period, and how the various jams were shaping up relative to what happened in 1974 and then post hiatus in 1976.
That show has a nice peggy o in 1st set, in addition to the perhaps unexpected but amazingly beautiful help>slip>franklins. You are indeed correct that there are no lyrics in the help on the way, but the song structure, verse/chorus timing is spot on, with Jerry laying out in guitar voice what the lyrics would soon be.
I was just curious to hear the first public version of Franklins, and was wondering if that was a complete surprise to those in the audience, or if many had already heard some version prior to the 6/17/75 show from any rehearsal tapes that may have been leaked out. Or if the slipknot jam had not quite been pushed yet in any extended jams in 1974 leading up to this show. I mean seriously, to be at a show and hear the first Franlins ever - what a rush. Especially if no one was used to the quirky and trippy help>slipknot jam, just an incredible build of tension over and over and over until that final sweet resolution into Franklins - and a complete naive experience for all - must have been just totally mind blowing.
I highly recommend the audience version since you can hear the swells of the crowd as the journey kicks off and builds throughout - and at the end you can clearly hear an excited couple giggling and saying "Change the batteries!!" Thanks to those who taped this back in the day - and if anyone can point me to any jams in 1974 where the slipknot jam started to evolve, that would be most appreciated.