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Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:41 pm
by Counterstriker
anyone have a scheme - I'm not gonna add the OBEL just yet - But I do want to put the buffer (I'm running alot of wires right now)


-Thanks!

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:30 am
by Rusty the Scoob
It's pretty simple to install - just four wires, two for the 9v power and two for signal in and out. The mono output jack needs to be TRS, and the negative signal path of the 9V battery goes through the ring and sleeve terminals of the jack, that way it acts as a switch, breaking the circuit when the guitar is not plugged in.

http://www.wald-electronics.com/wald-el ... Layout.jpg

http://www.wald-electronics.com/wald-el ... clone.html

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:23 am
by waldo041
Here is the layout WITHOUT OBEL. Stock, the blue 5 way switch output wire goes to the outside lug of the volume potentiometer where the yellow wire is. as you can see, the buffer/preamp's Input and Output is simply spliced inbetween the stock wiring. so, to install you would need to remove the stock wire from 5 way switch to volume pot and insert the buffer/preamp in and out accordingly. and as scoob explained, replace the stock mono jack and install a TRS Stereo jack and wire accordingly for the switching action needed to turn the buffer/preamp on and off with a plug inserted(on) or removed(off).
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here's a possible strat layout.
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HTH.

peace,
waldo

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:07 pm
by gdrfk1990
Waldo do you have one of these for 2 super 2's and a humbucking single coil with a 25k volume and 2 500k tones with no switches or OBEL ?

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:53 pm
by waldo041
gdrfk1990 wrote:Waldo do you have one of these for 2 super 2's and a humbucking single coil with a 25k volume and 2 500k tones with no switches or OBEL ?


with no coil toggles for single and humbucker operation, the wiring is pretty much identical to the above layout for a humbucker setup. the difference is in the super 2 color code. the super 2's will have the black and white wires tied and soldered together then shrink wrapped. the red will still be hot, but the green and shield will go to ground versus the black shown above. the sds one will have black and white wires and the black will go to the 5 way instead of the neck red shown. the white and shield will go to ground.

that said, jerry played a ton in the middle single coil position and is even quoted as doing so. you may want to rethink the no toggle/coil switches approach if your going this far.

good luck.

peace,
waldo

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:13 am
by gdrfk1990
I had it wired that way it was noisy. I recently changed it to more of an Ibanez wiring it's much quieter with the black and whites on the opposite side of the 5 way I am not sure what that accomplishes ?? I like the sound of the humbucker in the middle and can't stand single coil buzz I also don't want to add any switches or drill holes. I'll figure this out yet :?

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:21 am
by al.hurst
I want to do this same thing but I want theObel. How would I add this to the schematic?

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:52 am
by hippieguy1954
Go here: http://www.wald-electronics.com/ Scroll to the bottom and choose the guitar with the set up you want! :smile: :smile: :smile:

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:30 pm
by al.hurst
Thanks. I've spent a good bit reading there, but none of them have a buffer and a Obel with single coils. Well theres not a diagram. The diagram in this thread would be exacly what I'm looking for if it had an Obel. How would I insert the obel into this diagram?


Also, the link for the perfboard layout on Waldo electronics doesn't work. Iight try to see.if.i can build this untill I get the real deal. Does Waldo still havethat info out or does anyone? Thanks!!

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:46 pm
by hippieguy1954
Just leave out the 2 coil split switches and use the 2 conductor single coil wires instead of 4 conductor wires.
Maybe if you wait for a while there might be a seperate diagram that will get posted, but I haven't seen one.
Would be nice to have! :smile: :smile: :smile:

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:56 pm
by al.hurst
Couldn't I use this diagram and just insert the Obel with a switch between the first lug of the volume knob and the output wire on the buffer?

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:24 pm
by waldo041
al.hurst wrote:Couldn't I use this diagram and just insert the Obel with a switch between the first lug of the volume knob and the output wire on the buffer?

Yes, just insert the Obel (switch & trs jack) in the same spot as my other layouts. The Obel is just a splice in the circuit.


peace,
waldo

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:44 pm
by al.hurst
Thanks! Thats what I figured. I may be contacting you to get a buffer soon. Do you not have the perfboard layout for the buffer on your website anymore? Thanks.

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:16 pm
by mthimbe
I purchased 4 of these units from Mike and it seems I can't get a simple email response back from ole' Ward....?? As they say in the parlance of our time......"where's the love now........???" Wald's website shows that Jeff Mattson is sporting his unit on his single coil Srat but the color diagram online and as provided in the shipped units only shows a TRS output....?? Jeff's Strat has the 2 jack system I'm more familiar with.....the TRS goes out to the effects back into the guitar and finally out the other guitar jack and onto thr preamp......?? I've dropped my guitar at my tech and we're both baffled....?? Can someone help me out....?? I'm on the begging and pleading line here because customer service is not existent at Wald....??!!

Re: Buffer in my strat

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:24 pm
by TeeJay
Wald's website shows that Jeff Mattson is sporting his unit on his single coil Srat but the color diagram online and as provided in the shipped units only shows a TRS output....??


The TRS output jack on the strat allows for the preamp to be switched off when the plug is removed from the jack. There are several diagrams for the on board effects loop on here also if that is what you are having trouble with.