Phatboy is correct, TJ did allude to him being an asshole first.
old man down wrote:So, I just read ALL 15 pages of this.
I'm a little intrigued by Phatboy. He started to take the conversation in an interesting direction, but it got lost when he tried to defend himself while at the same time maintaining an attack.
Phatboy is correct, TJ did allude to him being an asshole first. (Why are you an asshole? on page 5) By page 6 things were too far gone to ever be reconciled.
Phatboy may have known Jerry and friends, there is no way to be sure. His writing, however, does not suggest he is over 50, and so if he knew the Grateful Dead it would only be as one of their children, or a friend of their children, for him to have an insider's knowledge. Something like that.
The Koons thing, if you have a sense of humor, is actually very funny. It is the first time I've seen it used, and it was the thing that intrigued me to search for Phatboy posts, which brought me here.
I have no disparaging things to say to anyone here. Live and let live.
I know extremely little about how to use effects. Whatever effects I owned, I sold a long time ago. I found that they ruined my guitar playing. Moreover, my best playing when I was in a band, and this was when I knew absolutely nothing about diatonic theory, was with an SG and a quad reverb amp and that was it. So, I kept things simple, and was just a rhythm player who once in a while would know the lead part for a song, but that was solely memorization. Extremely little improvisation.
So, I have to agree with Phatboy on his point that you shouldn't get too carried away with your rig.
Now to the point of where Phatboy was going with the conversation that interested me: If you want to play like Jerry you should play bluegrass or banjo. I think I have this right, but it was somewhere in the 15 pages, and I don't want to go looking to get it positively right. If this is the case, can you expand on that a little? I've heard this argument a little before, like in Garcia: An American Life. What is it that you would come away with if you undertook this pursuit? I've never tried to learn Bluegrass or the banjo, but I know Jerry played banjo, and I know his style is very different from others. Care to comment?
(sorry for the hijack here)
Tennessee Jedi wrote:Phatboy is correct, TJ did allude to him being an asshole first.
Old Man Down
You are wrong dude
I called him a jackass for which he has proven fits.
He's the one who put up the "ASSHOLE" thing 1st.
I called him a jackass not because of what he said but how he said it "You people " and sum people cant hear " and his thing about Playingdeads rig that doesnt work - leave the ego at home ...
Maybe you didnt see it but I did apologize for the whole thing.
That being said it doesnt excuse his Phatness for any of his remarks.
There is a core of truth to his opinions but he takes an extreme stance.
Tone loss due to pedals is A GIVEN ON THIS THREAD.
Phatboy wrote:wow, atleast someone can read between the lines on here. As for this guys post. Its obvious that if ya wanna sound like jerry ya have to go back to his roots. Which was bluegrass mainly. When anyone learns a instument like say jerry (banjo) one plays a certain way. OK knowing this --- Your whole life you will always have that certain bluegrass type attack on the strings. This was a hugeeeeeeeeee aspect of his playing. Sure he had effects and on and on but the majority of his tone was his picking. I would suggest playing bluegrass only for even say a few mnths and then play sum of the grateful dead songs. I bet you will get what i was trying to convey much better
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