jeager wrote:Probably another dumb question but I am interested in any advice on dialing in the tone on my SMS pre. I am using two JBL k120 speaks and a Mesa power amp which obviously is going to have an effect on things but getting into the ballpark...
I have the bass way down, I read that Jerry said he turns the bass all the way down, how about the mid knob? I read somewhere on this forum that the mid and treble are interactive? One effects the function of the other? Any help much appreciated as always.
Jon S. wrote:Another happy SMS Classic Preamp user. Here's my take. Forget the crap about "best settings." Play your guitar and adjust the knobs until the overall tone sounds best for you. Jerry was dealing with 100 factors different from yours. No one but you is in your shoes and room. As Brad's made clear, he can advise you where to start but only you can take you where you want to end.. You know what it is you want to hear - now find it!
Jon S. wrote:Here's my take. Forget the crap about "best settings."
SarnoMusicSolutions wrote:So I'd say start with these settings:
bass - off
mid - half
treble 85% to 100%
If it is too thin and body-less, then give a bit more mid, and just a tiny hair more bass, but be careful because as soon as you get up around 2 on a Fender knob, the low bass starts to enter the picture and you can instantly destroy that Jerry thing. Bass is the Jerry tone killer. I also find that bringing the treble down just a little bit below 100% can help balance things out. But if you have a 2-12" or 3-12" cab with similar size and geometry as jerry's cab, then the Jerry settings really do nail it. Then if it's too thin, consider your picking and string touch. That's really at the heart of the sound.
Play your guitar and adjust the knobs until the overall tone sounds best for you. Jerry was dealing with 100 factors different from yours. No one but you is in your shoes and room. As Brad's made clear, he can advise you where to start but only you can take you where you want to end.
Q. Back to amps…if you polled most of the amp bulletin boards for a “best amp” survey, Super Reverbs would come out on top. Stevie used them for a long time, didn’t he?
A. Stevie used to have Super Reverbs, but they somehow never sounded quite right to him – too much power, you know? He also used to be real superstitious about the number 6. He’d always set the controls on his amps on 6 – the treble on 6, the bass on 6, and I’d back off the knobs with a screwdriver so that when it said 6 it was really on 10 (laughs). You have to do these things.
Jon S. wrote:"Best" and "starting point" are not synonymous. I stand by my first post. For someone else who is not playing your guitar, with your hands, with your rest of your gear, in your room (or venue) to tell you what your "best" settings are for sounding like Jerry is impossible.
Even if you share some remaining commonalities with what Jerry played through, it's not sufficient to enable someone else to tell you what settings are "best." Your advisor can get you started with some settings recommendations but after that, it's in your hands.
I'm sorry, it honestly did not occur to me that my admittedly quick but intended to light hearted use of crap in this context would leave you or anyone else feeling very insulted - no conflict intended & I'll be softer in the future. (Have also PM'd you.) On the merits, while I continue to disagree w/you as explained previously, folks now have two options they can try ("set 'em & leave 'em"; "set 'em & tweak 'em").waldo041 wrote:i have to disagree Jon, the fact is with the correct gear and mods, it is very sufficient to use the "best" setting and have a tone almost identical to jerry! if you don't have the skill in the hands to pull it off is a different argument we have already been thru. the fact is with those that do have the skill, and the commonalities, and are using the "best" settings are NAILING his sound. to call this "crap" is a very insulting statement!
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