Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby hippieguy1954 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:44 pm

TI4-1009 wrote:I think a used one would be all worn out... ;-)


Depends on how used! :lol: :lol: :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby mijknahs » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:32 pm

TI4-1009 wrote:I think a used one would be all worn out... ;-)


I actually have vintage ones in mine (the soapbar style plastic cover) and the sound exactly like all the new one's I've used and still have. I just like the "look" of the old ones. They are not any weaker than new ones.
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby hippieguy1954 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:50 am

mijknahs wrote:
TI4-1009 wrote:I think a used one would be all worn out... ;-)


I actually have vintage ones in mine (the soapbar style plastic cover) and the sound exactly like all the new one's I've used and still have. I just like the "look" of the old ones. They are not any weaker than new ones.


I've heard (through secret RUKIND posts that anyone can see) that Jerry would disagree and would throw those old ones away. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby mijknahs » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:17 am

hippieguy1954 wrote:
mijknahs wrote:
TI4-1009 wrote:I think a used one would be all worn out... ;-)


I actually have vintage ones in mine (the soapbar style plastic cover) and the sound exactly like all the new one's I've used and still have. I just like the "look" of the old ones. They are not any weaker than new ones.


I've heard (through secret RUKIND posts that anyone can see) that Jerry would disagree and would throw those old ones away. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:smile: :smile: :smile:


He's probably throw out all my old JBL E120s as well since they probably sound worn out too. He changes strings every time he plays too. I can go a bit longer than that with my strings (at least 3 or 4 gigs)...
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby hippieguy1954 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:55 am

I thought those E120's were mine :D And yea, strings, strings, strings! I'm never happy with them any longer than about a week max, but that can get costly, so I use them for a couple of weeks sometimes three. I need a free life time supply. :lol: :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:02 am

redeyedjim wrote:Leaving aside the middle Super II for the moment, do most of you also run a Super II for the bridge pickup? Anyone run a Dual Sound or something else? I'm getting close to buying my own assortment of Tiger pickups so it's more than idle curiosity.


I leave Super II's aside altogether. Dual Sound are where it's at for me.

Strings. Whenever I get lazy and try to play a 2nd gig on set of strings I always regret it.
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby mijknahs » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:19 am

tigerstrat wrote:Strings. Whenever I get lazy and try to play a 2nd gig on set of strings I always regret it.


For years I used to always change my strings before every gig but now I kinda like the way they sound as they mellow.
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby hippieguy1954 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:52 am

I have a dual sound in my Vantage and am very happy with it! A little different dynamic than super II, but a great clean pickup. :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby claytushaywood » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:07 pm

waldo041 wrote:
Jerry1996x wrote:Question. Ive seen a bunch of mentions of Garcias alembic twin mods. Can these mods, as well as an AB763 mod, in any way be done to a 135 watt twin????



sure can. just perform all the post or pre alembic preamp mods(your choice) i have on my webpage for the preamp and have your tech just tighten up the power section for really clean output. oh and drop the stock fender master volume circuit and place a 250k pot inbetween the preamp and the power section, right at the 220k mix resistors node and the phase inverter.

peace,
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Whats up with this 250k pot? is that to make the master volume a post phase inverter master? Why not just drop it completely? I dont know much about the ultra linear twins, but man dude from shakedown amps can get em sounding spectacular
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Re: Help with basic clean 80's Garcia tone

Postby 1960strat » Fri May 08, 2015 6:44 am

Brad, any pics or wiring schemes on this tele set up? Looking to do the same thing w a UBG as well. Any thoughts on how the UGB would play with the other pickups? I am thinking Joe Barden Bridge and maybe antiquity in the neck. I am looking for exactly what you had in your tele. Traditional tele sounds in bridge and neck, with Jerry tone when i switch to middle. Five way nashville switch could make for cool tone variations on that theme.



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Cmnaround wrote:Ok I'm not trying to be a dick by asking this, but middle position pick up split to single coil all the time? Jerry really played like that all the time? Then why did he have 3 double coil hunbuckers if only using the middle pick up set to single coil? I havent taken the time to go back and look at tons of photos to confirm, but was he really playing with only that selection all the time and never using his double coils in bridge or neck position?


Great question. I think of that position as the 95% setting in that Jerry probably used that middle pickup set to single coil about 95% of the time. Although he clearly would go to the bridge or and also kick in humbucking mode and very seldom go to the neck pickup at times for various tone changes. But yes, I'd have to agree that the middle pickup split to single coil was by far the primary and definitive JERRY TONE pickup setting from about 1979 till he died in '95.

I have a telecaster with normal Tele pickups, but also a Dimarzio routed into the middle position. The switching is like a Strat, like Jerry's. I have it wired to single coil only, no humbucker option. I'm still amazed at how perfectly balanced and useful and VERY-JERRY this middle/single-coil Dimarzio Jerry pickup sound is. He really found something there.


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