Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby mkaufman » Fri May 13, 2011 11:11 am

Anyone know if the DC power jack requires '+' tip or '-' tip? Will a Pedal Power with standard cable work (ie: same setup as for an Ibanez pedal TS9)?

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby deadguise » Fri May 13, 2011 2:02 pm

I run mine off a regular Boss 9 VDC Adapter.
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby wolftigerrosebud » Fri May 13, 2011 10:53 pm

I've got a 1 Spot adapter for mine, works just fine. Standard cable, unless Brad says otherwise and I'm doing it wrong.
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby mkaufman » Sat May 14, 2011 6:56 am

According to Brad, you are all correct.

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby SarnoMusicSolutions » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:36 pm

We are back in stock after a long wait.

These 7 ship today... I'm building them as fast as I can.

http://www.sarnomusicsolutions.com


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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby wolftigerrosebud » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Best OD pedal ever, and I love the mossy green. Also, I've noticed a bit of buzzing going on with the pedal activated that I either hadn't previously noticed or that wasn't previously there. Any thoughts, Brad?
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby SarnoMusicSolutions » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:05 am

Not sure about the buzzing. That's not normal to the pedal. First check your DC power daisy chain. Try unplugging the DC power and see if it goes away. Possibly the daisy chain is not in an ideal sequence.

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby rugger » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:55 am

Ran across this a little while ago and meant to post then, but this thread seems appropriate.

A little Earth Drive love from Kit Rae. If you're into or appreciate Gilmour's playing and gear, this site is a must along with Gimourish.com.

For those that don't know, Gilmour achieved his searing solo tones by stacking overdrives with Big Muffs/Fuzzes. Kit talks about using the Earth Drive in this application.

http://www.kitrae.net/music/David_Gilmour_Tone_Building.html#BoostingBigMuffs

Still digging my Earth Drive btw, Brad.

Enjoy!

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby vwjodyme » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:11 am



weird, i am blocked from this at work because of nudity?
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby strumminsix » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:18 am

vwjodyme wrote:


weird, i am blocked from this at work because of nudity?

Likely cuz it says Big Muff in the URL
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby SarnoMusicSolutions » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:29 pm

I realized after posting that link that I think you need to be a forum member there to view the page. This guy Kit Rae is basically the "Waldo" of the David Gilmour gear world. He ran his Earth Drive thru all kinds of tests and made a ton of audio samples. The thing he was after was not only a mild overdrive, but also a post-Big Muff driver/warmer like the way Gilmour uses a Tube Driver as a clean-ish Muff driver pedal. His reviews gave the Earth Drive very high praises as a Gilmour type tool. Now if only David could get his hands on one...


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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby mgbills » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:23 pm

By the way...

If you don't have an Earth Drive...you should. Just got tired of futzing with my "Vintage" MXR. Maybe it needs to go to the doctor....

Love it. Love it (the Earth Drive that is). Love it. I'm playing low low low today. Wife is 1 room away. SMS>GCX>MC250>K120. Swirly on the middle Super2. Dimed the tone knob 'cause I likes me some trebles. Set the Volume to match the rig volume. There is a beautiful line in the Drive pot that swings beautifully between Loud Jerry, to the TR breakup of the '72 period. Loved it. Then...I brought the other coil on and then...in my mind...I was Neil Young just busting into "Like a Hurricane."

Now...it might've been a flashback, or maybe lack of sleep...but...it's pretty dang sweet.

I'm going to give it a shot between the guitar & the preamp next. Just have to come up with a 9v power supply that's not in my road case.

Peace to all.

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby claytushaywood » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:57 pm

what circuit is the earth drive based on?
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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby waldo041 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:56 pm

claytushaywood wrote:what circuit is the earth drive based on?

The earth drive. :smile:

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Re: Sarno Earth Drive Pedal

Postby SarnoMusicSolutions » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:48 pm

Nice answer Waldo!!


To be fair, it belongs to a huge family of overdrive topologies that relate back to the ubiquitous Ibanez Tube Screamer. But that shouldn't be considered a fair association. There are essentially, generally, 3 types or distortion/overdrive pedal topologies. Fuzz types are related to the old Fuzz Face and Tone Bender where two transistors are used, one slamming the next one creating that distinctive sound we all know. Then there's the "Distortion" pedal topology based on clipping a pair of reversed diodes that live between the signal and ground. This would be the MXR Distortion+, the Rat, the Boss DS-1 for the most well known examples. Then there's the family of "Overdrive" types. This is what most boutique overdrive pedals are built around. The idea here is that there are reversed diodes that generate the clipping, but the diodes live in the feedback loop of an opamp. This creates a milder, more compressed, more amp-like kind of clipping and a slightly more rounded "squarewave" when they clip. But there are so many thousands of ways you can set up this type of circuit, how you voice it, how you color it with diode symmetry/asymmetry and types, whether it's inverting or non-inverting, buffered, pre-EQ'd, post-EQ'd, etc. It's a very basic template for a gazillion ways to carve out a unique sounding overdrive circuit. So Waldo's right. It's pretty much its own design, but it does belong to this particular family of overdrive pedal circuit types with clipping in the feedback loop. But beyond that major generality, it's its own animal.

It was first inspired by my wife Auset. She plays a '62 Strat into a sweet '68 Fender Deluxe Reverb. A lot of our gigs are very quiet and there's no way for her to push the amp into that zone where it does its thing with 6V6's singing. So she wanted a way to get something like that at any volume. We lined up more than 10 boutique or classic pedals in our collection like the Zendrive, AC Booster, Nobels ODR-1, Tubescreamer, OCD, Timmy, Turbo OD, Rat, MXR+, Barber LTD, and more. They all did something cool, but not one of them was exactly right. She wanted one with a very natural EQ that didn't really change the guitar, something that would tame the ice-picky top end without over-dulling it, something that retained some fullness in the low mids, and something that generated a symmetrical clipping kind of like a push-pull Fender amp like a Deluxe, Pro, Super, Twin, Princeton, etc. that had that clean-ish-ness even when pretty dirty. So that sent me on a mission, and a few prototypes later we settled on this circuit.


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