Jerry talks about pushing grabbing Bobby and pushing him after what he considered a "sub-par" preformancs in an interview
Scott Bardolf wrote:and Weir was fired along with Pigpen, but Bobby just wouldn't except that and never left. I believe David Nelson was next in line for the job?
I never heard that. I thought Pig wasn't so much fired as he just faded away and played with them less and less.
NashvilleMike wrote:Scott Bardolf wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on Weir getting canned and how did he come back from that?
jonarobb wrote:It's in many books the story about Weir and Pig being asked to consider stepping aside so the band could move forward in a new direction. This would be round the summer of 1968. The band obviously reconsidered. Weir buckled down around this time and got away from all of his basic open position stuff to satisfy Phils complaint that he just wasn't a good guitar player. The issue with Pig was that the band didn't want to be pigeon-holed into just being a blues/jug band. By the end of 68' everyone made nice-nice, TC and Hart were in the band full time, and they all pushed forward as one big happy family....
There are a string of shows from the late summer of 68 on without Weir and Pig. They were billed as Mickey and the Hartbeats. A number of other guitarists would sit in the classic rhythm guitar spot. One can only speculate that Garcia put the Kabash on the whole thing. Although those Heartbeat shows are unique and exciting, they lacked any real depth. There's a real turning point in the way the Dead "jammed" around the end of 1968. This can be directly linked to Weir woodshedding his chops with Garcia. Weir is often thought of as self taught, and in a sense he is, but Garcia spent ample time with him shaping his playing to compliment his own. By 1969 this really flowered...
deadguise wrote:Jerry talks about pushing grabbing Bobby and pushing him after what he considered a "sub-par" preformancs in an interview
Are you sure he wasn't talking about Phil? Jerry just wanted to fire Bobby once in the early days...
NashvilleMike wrote:I heard tale of a tape when they played "The race is on" and BW messed it up and I was told that after the song you can hear JG say "Jesus Weir" and Bob reply "you guys fuck up too".
Any confirmation? Date?
old man down wrote:Even to this day, wasn't there, until this last tour, a serious falling out between Weir and Lesh that lasted years?
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