best scarlet->fires?

best scarlet->fires?

Postby zoppenheimer » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:25 am

Just watched the one from the closing of winterland dvd. I never really liked fire that much until now. Could anyone suggest some of their favorites from any other dates?
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Postby bodiddley » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:41 am

11-30-80, 6-28-88. I have a love/hate thing with "Fire". I tend to get horribly bored with it usually about halfway through, afterall it only has 2 chords. Having said that, the Dead could usually do more with just 2 chords than most bands could do with 10.
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Postby LazyLightnin » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:47 am

theres alot of good ones out there, right now my fave would have to 10-31-91. it features mr. Bruce Hornsby on a grand piano i beleive and some trippy flute midi from jerry. the jams not the longest but its great and they dont skip a beat, the transition is also pretty much flawless, totally upbeat. Jerrys voice is a little scratchy but sometimes thats when he sounds best! check out the whole show at archive the whole thing smokes, best help>slip>frank of the nineties imo
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Postby mttourpro » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:53 am

6-16-85 Greek Theatre Set 2 is not only my personal fav for Scarlet>Fire, but the whole set smokes frome end to end.

They broke out Cryptical and played a very sick Samson and also the Other One and Wharfrat. It isn't a super-well-known show, but I highly reccomend getting it.
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Postby bodiddley » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:18 am

It's just a matter of time until someone brings up the epic greatness of 5-8-77 so I'll just do it now and get it over with.
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Postby 35FLA » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:27 am

best Scarlet > Fire.....

easy one for me, hearing this made me a deadhead

3-22-90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada....

Amazing, really listen to this one. The show is grate, the only Hey Jude > Dear Mr. Fantasy > Hey Jude Finale
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Best Scarler>Fire

Postby Laytonco » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:42 am

5-8-77 - The magical mysterious Cornell show. I think every tune on that show was one the best.
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Postby 35FLA » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:53 am

i just gotta say 5-8-77 is one of the worst shows of that month and the MOST overrated show ever. IMO

Heck 5-7-77 is way better as is 5-9-77 and the southern part of that tour was on FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby BlobWeird » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:20 pm

I am with 35FLA somewhat. 5/8/77 is wayy overrated. BUT it does have some good versions. Umm the first and most important is Row Jimmy. Its an amazing version! The Scarlet Fire is my second fav. New Minglewood is nice. The rest is alright. Some people say that M dew is the best. umm YEAH RIGHT. haha certainly not even on my top5 but anyway my favorite Scarlet Fire, even though I havent listened to an extensive number of em, would have to be from Dicks Picks 18 2/5/78. That DP has tons of great stuff besides that too. Awesome TLEO and Music Never Stopped.
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Postby ebick » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:24 pm

Let me save everyone a bunch of time

http://community.rukind.org/viewtopic.p ... ht=scarlet
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Postby tigerstrat » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:57 pm

ebick wrote:Let me save everyone a bunch of time

http://community.rukind.org/viewtopic.p ... ht=scarlet


What? And deprive everyone of repeating ourselves ad nauseum?

2/27/81! By a light-year... such incredible grind and grace. In fact pick almost any 1981 S>F and it's bound to be a Top 20. 10/19/81 Barcelona and 9/12/81 Berkeley round out the triumvirate, but its also hard to overlook the 81 MSG and also the Copenhagen... both of those feature incredibly... impossibly FAT, UNBORING Fires. T'was a powerfully magical year for those, '81. imho of course

Here's a NEW spin on the old question:


When somebody asks you your fave S>F
, and that first little audio highlight reel pops into your head... is it from the Scarlet or the Fire part of the equation? Which one is more important to "judging" (kinda icky term to apply to the Grateful Dead experience, eh?) a specific Scarlet>Fire combo?
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Postby Crazy 9.5 Fingers » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:08 pm

Tiger nice spin. I would have to say I always think about the moment where Jerry starts to noodle around the opening phrases of Fire. It isn't quite Fire yet, but it is more Fire than the rest of the transition jam.
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Postby Erictw83 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:13 pm

I think I like the "scarlet" part of the jam better. That's not to diss Fire, it is a great song as well, but it does have a tendency to bore me with its predictability. I find myself digging scarlet more when (on the rare occassion) it is played as a stand alone track/jam with out fire, for example off of Dicks Picks 20, 9/25/76
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Postby tigerstrat » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:19 pm

Sorry about the edit-after-reply; twas just adding this re-phrase:
tigerstrat wrote:Which one is more important to "judging" (kinda icky term to apply to the Grateful Dead experience, eh?) a specific Scarlet>Fire combo?
"There, in huge black letters, was 'The Grateful Dead'. It just... cancelled my mind out."-Garcia
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Postby strumminsix » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:22 pm

Nice TS!!! Easy... Scarlet (after the first verse I skip Fire)

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