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Postby strumminsix » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:25 am

Again, Csus4.
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Postby DenverEd » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:25 am

I've always played the F (Csus4). It provides a nice mirror to the G C (Gsus4) thang.
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Postby Tennessee Jedi » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:32 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5seCugLrhOM
@ the 2 minute mark.
Me not see the " F "
or Csus4 either in Jerrys hands.
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Postby strumminsix » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:41 am

Oh, this is a J vs B thing me thinks....

Bobby hits the Cs4 not Jerry.
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Postby Tennessee Jedi » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:45 am

Hey -anyone else fret that 3rd fret C barre like Jerry ? I do all my A string barre chords that way - I guess 'cause I'm hobbit sized.
Using the 1st finger and the pinky ?
Wonder what the deal-eo is with that ?
Any theories ?
Strum ?
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Postby mttourpro » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:16 pm

Ah, one of those "easy" songs that overly complicated. I'm not so sure the GD really did it the same way with any real consistency. It is definitely a song that gets played a lot of different ways by bands, especially in terms of rhythm.

As for the F chord in the C chord part of the verse. It is there. No doubt.

As for G>Gsus vs G>C, I play the C.

As for the rhythm, I think there's a consistent difference in the rhythm from the beginning/verses and the end of the song.

The other thing that often gets messed up is the chords of the chorus. I played it wrong for ten years. Lots of folks play

D C G C D
Move

it's really

D Amin G C D

as for the "Bams", hit on the 2,3 at the last two lines of the first solo and hit 4,5 at the last two lines of the second.

Fun tune to play for sure.
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Postby Tennessee Jedi » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:29 pm

Sorry Pro
I dont hear it - the F thing.
Garcia (at least in the above version ) stays on a C chord.
I dont really dont think it mimics the G/C part.
Of course what the other instruments do is up to them.
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Postby mttourpro » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:01 pm

Yeh, after I posted that I kinda thought more about it. I definitely do play the C and Fs, but I don't play guitar.

I have played that tune with a lot of different bands and it's definitely true to say none of them played it quite the same way. :D
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Postby BlobWeird » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:49 pm

Strummin is right though. If you listen, Bobby is hittin the Csus4. He is doin the same rhythm thru both parts. G G G Gsus4 G.. Then for the verse it seems, to my ears from Bobby, to be C C C Csus4 C.
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Postby strumminsix » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:13 pm

BlobWeird wrote:Strummin is right though. If you listen, Bobby is hittin the Csus4. He is doin the same rhythm thru both parts. G G G Gsus4 G.. Then for the verse it seems, to my ears from Bobby, to be C C C Csus4 C.


Bingo!
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Postby Chuckles » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:32 pm

Along with his single note noodling fills, Bobby also would sometimes move up and down in 6ths, which brings the F in.
Seems like I've been here before...

The Road's Facebook Page (including links to tunage) is here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Road/ ... 200?ref=nf
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Postby strumminsix » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:48 pm

Chuckles wrote:Along with his single note noodling fills, Bobby also would sometimes move up and down in 6ths, which brings the F in.


Huh? 6th of G=Em, C=Am
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Postby Chuckles » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:42 pm

I mean playing double-stops a 6th apart over the C, something I once picked up from listening to Bobby (can't remember the show). I may not be using the correct technical lingo, but this illustrates what I mean:

_____C_______________________________G_
1|---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X|
2|---5---6---8---X---8---6---5---X|
3|---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X|
4|---5---7---8---X---8---7---5---X|
5|---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X|
6|---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X|
Seems like I've been here before...

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Postby JackORoses » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:12 pm

Thanks for all the help guys, i've pretty much got it sounding pretty decent now.
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