How many songs?

How many songs?

Postby Dozin » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:56 am

I wish there was a way to know how many different songs the dead played in a single year. Especially the first year and how they progressed.

How many tunes did your band know the first year? I think we were around 40. When you guys practice do you play a lot of the same tunes over and over, like every time you guys get together?

just curious how others bands practice.
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Postby Dozin » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:26 am

I found it 6 different in 65. 55 in 66, 34 in 67, 32 in 68. 77 in 69 and 106 in 1970. interesting.
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Postby causebass » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:07 am

theCAUSE practices once a week, we know ahead of practice what our setlist for the next gig looks like, so we are able to (hopefully) work on the tunes before practice, then rehearse the tunes at practice, work on harmonies, arrangements, dynamics etc...We usually practice for 2 hours and get in about 8-12 songs. We have played 199 different tunes so far during the 4 years we've been together(see our tunes page on our website). When we first got together we prob could have played 30 tunes from the start, the drummer and keys were in Left for dead, and the guitarist in Double Dose both long time dead cover bands, and I have been playing GD tunes forever, although I have learned so many more since being part of this band. Although learning tunes and being able to jam tunes is very different. We have really learned to listen to each other and play off each other and most importantly not afraid to explore the tunes and take them down roads we never expected, even in non-big jam tunes, songs like Big River or Minglewood have rocked in ways you might never expect. We also our very proud of being confident in playing softly, we can get to a whisper then rock the walls, never underestimate the power of wide dynamics in a tune, it is very easy to play loud, not so easy to play quietly.

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Postby tigerstrat » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:33 am

Deadbase VI (65-91) has several features that some of the other editions do not, and one is breakdown of songs/shows by year. 1987 is the champion (tipped by Dylan no doubt): 148 different songs.
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Postby tigerstrat » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:51 am

We've been gigging together for almost 7 years now- hard to think back! But we did have some fairly varied lists rith from the get-go... Our first 6 months of shows, I count approx 55 different songs in 7 shows:

Sunday 06/17/01
It's A Beautiful Pizza, Portland,OR
~I~ That's What Love Will Make You Do> Bertha, Sugaree, Dire Wolf, Dear Prudence, Eyes Of The World> They Love Each Other, Don't Let Go
~II*~ Uncle John's Band*> Shakedown St.> Playin In The Band> Bird Song, Jack Straw, Dark Star> Not Fade Away> The Wheel> Deal
~E~ Half-Step> Sisters And Brothers
The debut concert of Ramblin' Rose! *=John Conniff(rhythm guitar,vocals) joins the band at the start of set II

Saturday 07/07/01
It's A Beautiful Pizza, Portland, OR
~I~ Cold Rain & Snow, Jack Straw, Franklin's Tower, Mama Tried> Big River, Candyman, Scarlet Begonias
~II~ Promised Land, Beat It On Down The Line, China Cat> Rider, He's Gone> Truckin> Dark Star> Don't Let Go> Dark Star> Other One> One More Sat. Night
w/o John, w/Bob Hines, guitar & vocals

Sunday 08/05/01
It's A Beautiful Pizza, Portland,OR
~I~ Passenger, Althea, Beat It On Down The Line, Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain, Masterpiece, Bird Song, Cassidy, Shakedown St.
~II~ Women Smarter, China Cat> Rider, St. Stephen> NFA> St. Stephen, Playin> He's Gone> Space> Other One> Eyes> Around> Good Lovin'

Saturday 10/13/01
Twilight Cafe, Portland, OR
~all~ Sisters & Bros., Stranger> Franklin's, Masterpiece, They Love Each Other, Truckin'> Spoonful> Uncle John's> Playin> Shakedown, Harder They Come
*{Andrew Deetz joins on keyboards}*

Saturday 10/27/01(a)
Tiki Lounge Annex
~all~ She's On The Road Again, Deep Elem Blues, ???, Friend Of The Devil, Cassidy, Whiskey In The Jar, Truckin'
*acoustic, w/o Kerry and Chad*

Saturday 10/27/01(b)
Student Union, Reed College, Portland, OR
(Tom, Mike, Chad and Andrew, w/Sam G. on bass) Jam> Finders Keepers, That's What Love, Sissy Strut, Let it Rock, Don't Let Go

Wednesday 11/15/01
Mt.Tabor Theater, Portland, OR
~all~ Dedication to Ken Kesey> Samson, Dark Star> Dancin', Cryptical> Other One> China Cat> Rider, Promised
~E~ Don't Let Go
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Postby pappypgh » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:52 pm

TS - GREAT LISTS, MAN!!! Here's what theCAUSE did in our first 7 shows. I count 73 different tunes in our first 7 shows (not counting Sugar Magnolia & Sunshine Daydream as seperate songs, as they are NOT!!!)....ah, diggin' through the archives...fun stuff!!

Saturday 11/15/03 Thirsty's, Pittsburgh, PA
*theCAUSE DEBUT SHOW*
~I: Hell In A Bucket, West LA Fadeaway, Me & My Uncle > Big River, Ramble On Rose, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Next Time You See Me, Black Throated Wind, Stagger Lee, Let It Grow.

~II: Fee > Sugar Magnolia > Scarlet Begonias > Jam > Looks Like Rain, Eyes Of The World, Ballad Of A Thin Man, Never Alone > Dear Mr. Fantasy > Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad > Stella Blue > Around & Around > Johnny B. Goode > Sunshine Daydream.

ENCORE: Hesitation Blues > Casey Jones.



Saturday 12/12/03 Moondog's, Blawnox, PA
~I: Bertha+, Walkin' Blues+, Stagger Lee, Mama Tried+ > Mexicali Blues+, Hesitation Blues, Mr. Charlie#+, Give Me One Reason#+, Glass Onion+ > I'm So Tired+, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Jack-A-Roe+, Black Throated Wind > Deal+.

~II: Not Fade Away+ > Eyes Of The World > Never Alone*, Fee > Sugar Magnolia > Bird Song+ > Truckin' +> Drums / Space > Bird Song > New Speedway Boogie+ > I Need A Miracle+ > Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad > Not Fade Away.

ENCORE: Sunshine Daydream > Johnny B. Goode.
#with Deanna Dean on lead vocals
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad
+denotes first time played



Saturday 1/17/04 Uptown Theatre, Washington, PA - DEADFEST with Fungus
Fee > Sugar Magnolia > Black Throated Wind, Mr. Charlie, Never Alone* > Deal.
with Matt Montgomery from Fungus on drums
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad
whole set with Deanna Dean on vocals




Saturday 2/21/04 Birmingham Bridge Tavern, South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
~I: Bertha, C.C. Rider+, Jack-A-Roe, Black Throated Wind, Loser > If I Could+, Mama Tried > Big River, Next Time You See Me, Bird Song, Music Never Stopped+.

~II: Shakedown Street+, Truckin' > She Belongs To Me+, Man Smart / Woman Smarter+, Brown Eyed Woman+, Looks Like Rain > Eyes Of The World > (Like A) Firefly* +> Ballad Of A Thin Man, Doin' That Bluegrass Rag+ > Turn On Your Lovelight+.

ENCORE: Hesitation Blues > Deal.
second set & encore with Haylee "Haze" Heinzberg on vocals
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad & Jon Hoernig
+denotes first time played



Saturday 3/13/04 Birmingham Bridge Tavern, South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
~I: Mississippi 1/2-Step Uptown Toodeloo+ > Feel Like A Stranger+ > Franklin's Tower+, Mexicali Blues > Me & My Uncle, They Love Each Other+, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Ramble On Rose, Cassidy+, Stagger Lee, Let It Grow.

~II: Aiko! Aiko! > Sugar Magnolia > Scarlet Begonias > (Like A) Firefly*, Mr. Charlie, New Speedway Boogie > Dear Mr. Fantasy > Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad > Never Alone** > Not Fade Away > Sunshine Daydream.
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad & Jon Hoernig
**written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad
+denotes first time played



Saturday 4/3/04 Birmingham Bridge Tavern, South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
~I: Hell In A Bucket, Jack-A-Roe, Walkin' Blues, Friend Of The Devil+, (Like A) Firefly* > If I Could, Glass Onion > I'm So Tired > Big Railroad Blues+, Beat It On Down The Line+ > Dire Wolf+,
Promised Land+.

~II: Possum+ > Cocaine+ > Truckin' > Eyes Of The World > Looks Like Rain, Brown Eyed Woman, Man Smart / Woman Smarter > Drums / Space > The Other One > Althea+ > Around & Around > Sample In A Jar+ > Deal#.

ENCORE: Hesitation Blues.
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad & Jon Hoernig
+denotes first time played
# with Haylee "Haze" Heinzberg on vocals




Saturday 5/8/04 Birmingham Bridge Tavern, South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
~I: Mississippi 1/2-Step Uptown Toodeloo, Jack Straw+ > Run For The Roses+, New New Minglewood Blues+, Ramble On Rose, El Paso+, Next Time You See Me, Never Alone* > China Cat Sunflower+ > I Know You Rider+ > Might As Well+.

~II: Scarlet Begonias > Music Never Stopped > Sugaree+ > Music Never Stopped, Katie Moon*+ > Bird Song > I Need A Miracle+ > Doin' That Bluegrass Rag > Stella Blue > Throwin' Stones+.

ENCORE: Fee > One More Saturday Night+
whole show with Michael "Foot" Hoernig on guitar & vocals
*written by Eric "Pappy" Weingrad
+denotes first time played
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Postby tigerstrat » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:08 pm

thanks, fun times by you too it looks like! I kinda miss being in a more mixed band sometimes with the occaisional Phish song or Talking Heads or Pink Floyd or whatever popping up.
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Postby pappypgh » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:20 pm

tigerstrat wrote:thanks, fun times by you too it looks like! I kinda miss being in a more mixed band sometimes with the occaisional Phish song or Talking Heads or Pink Floyd or whatever popping up.


Yeah, funny though....I still yearn for even broader horizons....I want more originals and more music that would normally not be heard from a predominantly GD cover band, that would still be really cool. I tried to get the boys to do a song ("Funky On My Back") from the band Cold Blood. Not too many people have ever heard of them, but I think the song could be REALLY tripped out by us. Keyboardist nixed it (he can be a bit fussy! hahaha!!! so can I , I guess :roll: ).
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