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Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby brutusbuck45 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:17 pm

I was doing a search a short time ago for any information about my Fender Super 60 Combo (red knob, 1 X 12). In doing so, I stumbled upon this excerpt of an old John Kadlecik interview from Jammed Online. The site appears to be defunct now as I have been unable to find any reference to it on the major search engines. I saved the interview to share with the community as it did seem kinda rare (maybe not :oops:) . Well, its good to see that there is someone else out there that appreciates the Fender red knob amps, also. :cool:

Here it is:

Jammed Online Magazine- Now, I have kind of a specialized question for you. I spent a
number of years working as a professional guitar repairman and have studied the work Jerry
did in conjunction with Doug Irwin, Ron Wickersham, John Cutler, Steve Parish, and others
who helped him design, build, and acquire so much of the gear that he used for his tone. I
was hoping you’d break down your rig a bit and explain how you go about nailing the “Jerry
Tone”.

John Kadlecik - Sure. And I’ll let you know that was an electronic hobbyist before I was a rock
and roll guitar player. When I was a classical violin student one of my hobbies was both
digital and analog electronics. The analog side was more in the vein of Ham radio stuff.

John Kadlecik - But, back to the rig, I’ve done a bunch of different Garcia set-ups on a bunch of
different guitars. For a long time I played a couple of different PRS guitars as my main
guitars. They both had bolt-on necks and I got em’ pretty cheap. But, I’ve put the same
electronics in an Epiphone Genesis which was a late 70’s, set-neck, Japanese Epiphone;
which was a lot like a Les Paul, in feel. I’ve put it in a mahogany, neck-through, Electra…Lately
I’ve been using a maple, neck-through Carvin.



Jammed Online Magazine- Which electronics are you using and do you use Garcia’s Unity
Gain Buffer system?

John Kadlecik - Three DiMarzio Super 2 pickups which are coil tapped. I use, mostly, just the
single coil side. My guitars have five-way switching, the effects loop, and I use an EMG PA-2
for the buffer. The guts of it are copied from the buffer EMG used to make called the JG-1. The
PA-2 is the JG-1 buffer with a little trim pot for gain adjustment. It also has a by-pass switch. I
actually de-solder the by-pass switch from the circuit board and put a couple of jumper wires
in so that it’s full time. I use my own by-pass switch to by-pass the effects loop leaving the
buffer permanently wired in. But, before I got into the PA-2’s, I built several of my own buffers
which were like on Radio Shack bread-boards (laughs), I had em’ external for a while. But, I
found out that I could get the PA-2’s for like thirty bucks, so, it was time to quit building my own
buffers (laughs)!

John Kadlecik - The effects loop was the ingenious part of Jerry’s rig, though. What it gives
you is the loop is before the volume but it’s after all the tone and pickup switches and that
goes to all your basic pedal effects.

Jammed Online Magazine- So, it’s seeing that signal.

John Kadlecik - Right, the envelop filter, the distortion, the octave they all see straight to the
pickups and they see full volume and then your volume knob is after all the pedal effects. So,
the key thing is if you don’t do this, then in order to play dynamically with an envelope filter you
have to have a volume pedal after it. Then, whenever you want to use the envelope filter you
turn your guitar volume up all the way. Garcia was really into working the tube sweet spot that
really means you almost never have your volume all the way up. But, in order to run an
envelope filter you need the filter to see a consistent signal so that it opens correctly; enough
to get nice, even, picking without tweaking sensitivity knobs around. So, when you install this
unit, you have an on-board knob to make micro-adjustments that you need to do to find the
sweet spot on the pre-amp. The sweet spot changes on the envelope filter because it has the
sweep which exposes every little crevice in your pre-amp tone.

Jammed Online Magazine- But, like you said, if you have it right there and available on your
guitar, you can roll right to the sweet spot with a fairly high degree of accuracy.

John Kadlecik - Yeah, volume pedals are just really hard to make little adjustments. They’re
great for doing those swells and stuff like that.

Jammed Online Magazine- As far as effects pedals go, are you using the old original pedals
like the Mu-Tron (Envelope filter) or are you using some of the newer technology?

John Kadlecik - I use a Q-Tron which was designed by the guy who did the original Mu-Tron
and it’s the nearest thing to a true re-issue of the Mu-Tron III. The re-issue that’s out there is a
complete re-design of the electronics.

Jammed Online Magazine- So, it’s not anything like the original Mu-Tron III?

John Kadlecik - No, it’s not. All they did was they got the right to license the chassis style, the
graphics design, component placement and all that stuff but the actual guts inside are just not
right. I really like the Q-Tron. Every old Mu-Tron I’ve tried has either had major issues with its
power supply, extremely damaged housing, or…I have a friend in Portland who said he had
one he thought was pretty sweet and he brought it to me but I just couldn’t make it happen
(laughs). For a while I was using a little Boss Graphics EQ linked in with my envelope filter. I
have all my pedals switched with a loop switching system and you can wire em’ up any way
you want. It’ll turn off and on anything that just has a regular switch; you can turn the reverb on
or off on a Fender Twin, channel switching on a Rivera…whatever. But, I use it just to keep
hard-wire by-passes to all my pedals and also to run a few together in series, ya’ know; the
envelope with an EQ, the distortion with an EQ. Whatever is together can be switched together.

Jammed Online Magazine- When you do shows from the early 70’s where Jerry’s tone was
much more bare bones, do you simplify your live rig to recreate that sound, as well?

John Kadlecik - I’m using the same pre-amp for everything but, the place I feel like I’m selling
myself short is that there was a really short window in time from 1975 to, like the fall of 1976
where he was using the Mesa-Boogie. The pre-amp I use has a couple of things more in
common with a Mesa-Boogie than a Fender Twin. I have a Fender Super 60 which is one of
the Rivera designed “Red-knobbers” from the late 80’s, the 1x12 combo that he did. It doesn’t
even have a speaker in it anymore but it was an amp I got in the 90’s and I used it for a while
then I retired it for quite a long time. But, then I wanted to get back into a more Fender-ish pre-
amp around three years ago now. I started teaching myself about tube pre-amp design and I
went in and looked at the schematics for this thing and…for instance, it had a buffered output
already. Taking a Twin and trying to convert it into a pre-amp, the biggest hassle is trying to
get a line-out somewhere. I’ve got a Dead-Head buddy up in Vermont who is deep into this
stuff and he brought me this Twin head which he said had been modified exactly like Garcia’
s. He got information from Healy, and Parish, and Ron Wickersham about this stuff, and it did
sound great, but the one thing was that it still had this funny output that was actually much
hotter than any line level. I had to find somewhere to “tame the gain!”

Jammed Online Magazine- (laughs) Right!

John Kadlecik - But, with my rig, I had buffered outputs already built in there in the circuit and
all I had to, basically, was go in and kill some of the channel switching circuitry and redo the
tone circuit. I upgraded all the capacitors to increase fidelity. It’s kind of fun to do all this stuff
and not have to pay ridiculous tech rates.

Jammed Online Magazine- That’s a pretty hip little rig.

John Kadlecik - It does the job. I’ve had to go in and do some solder repairs on it…

Jammed Online Magazine- But, you know you guys are on the road a good amount of the year;
a few cold solder joints isn’t a bad track record.

John Kadlecik - Yeah! And we’ve been pretty busy lately....
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby tigerstrat » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:48 pm

He finally did break down and got the vintage Mu.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby brutusbuck45 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:54 pm

tigerstrat wrote:He finally did break down and got the vintage Mu.


So, TS, are you the friend in Portland that brought him a Mu to try?
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby tigerstrat » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:13 pm

brutusbuck45 wrote:
tigerstrat wrote:He finally did break down and got the vintage Mu.


So, TS, are you the friend in Portland that brought him a Mu to try?


Yup, and of course Dozin is the "buddy up in VT".

This was April 2005. I came to the soundcheck, JK checked out my Mu, and I got to plug my Strat into his rig for a few minutes after they were done. I was pretty surprised at how overdriven his basic clean tone sounded to me. These guys play LOUD onstage. That was also the last time I saw my old GD tour friend SPL, RIP.

He played that red-knob Fender-Rivera (my '83 Super Champ is one too, but w/BFstyling) almost the whole decade of the 90's, think he got it in like 91 or 92 while w/ Hairball Willy. Ran a Vintage 30 in it during that time.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby mijknahs » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:16 pm

That's a cool interview. I'm glad JK knows his electronics and can work on his own stuff.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby brutusbuck45 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:36 pm

Cool story, man... :cool:


Yea, mijknahs, I thought the same thing too. When I first read it I thought how cool it was know his way around his gear.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby waldo041 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:47 pm

tigerstrat wrote:Yup, and of course Dozin is the "buddy up in VT".



actually, that amp was cryptical fingers twin he tried out. and it was not the proper preamp tap.

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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby JonnyBoy » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:27 pm

Great interview, I like this guy. Its hard not to.

:?: Waldo, I thought the proper Healy tap actually has a higher voltage/gain signal than the alembic version, or the simple tap to the cap version.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby waldo041 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:08 pm

JonnyBoy wrote::?: Waldo, I thought the proper Healy tap actually has a higher voltage/gain signal than the alembic version, or the simple tap to the cap version.


it does have slightly more output then the alembic version, and is much quieter also. but that amp he tried didn't have none of those. you have to remember that neither of these taps were made available back then. and we all knew the tap that was available then was not necessarily what jerry had, although it does work. so guys were still searching. were a little spoiled these days with a lot more insight now, then was available then.

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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby JonnyBoy » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:22 pm

Yes, I/we are spoiled with the wealth of info on here, you and Brad and so many others are like our very own Healy/Parish. :hail: I love this place. :hd:
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby jerrys.kids » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:43 am

nice post. jk has done his homework for sure. +1 jb. this site is such an awesome resource for someone like me with little knowledge of electronics and such. i think i know what i want, but not sure how to get there. you all rock :cool:
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby Rusty the Scoob » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:00 am

Good interview, thank you!
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:57 am

There's an Alembic version?
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby crazyfingerssotm » Tue May 04, 2010 3:51 pm

Hey there,
This is my first post outside of my introduction, but I was liking this interview but it just leaves me with a whole bunch of questions.

Three DiMarzio Super 2 pickups which are coil tapped. I use, mostly, just the
single coil side.


What does that mean? How would you control how you use the coil on the pickup? And what is a buffer system, or more specifically the Unity Gain Buffer System?

And I guess the idea of the effects loop on the guitar leads to questions also...

John Kadlecik - The effects loop was the ingenious part of Jerry’s rig, though. What it gives
you is the loop is before the volume but it’s after all the tone and pickup switches and that
goes to all your basic pedal effects.

Jammed Online Magazine- So, it’s seeing that signal.

John Kadlecik - Right, the envelop filter, the distortion, the octave they all see straight to the
pickups and they see full volume and then your volume knob is after all the pedal effects. So,
the key thing is if you don’t do this, then in order to play dynamically with an envelope filter you
have to have a volume pedal after it. Then, whenever you want to use the envelope filter you
turn your guitar volume up all the way. Garcia was really into working the tube sweet spot that
really means you almost never have your volume all the way up. But, in order to run an
envelope filter you need the filter to see a consistent signal so that it opens correctly; enough
to get nice, even, picking without tweaking sensitivity knobs around. So, when you install this
unit, you have an on-board knob to make micro-adjustments that you need to do to find the
sweet spot on the pre-amp. The sweet spot changes on the envelope filter because it has the
sweep which exposes every little crevice in your pre-amp tone.


So the effects loop allows the effects pedals to "see straight to the pickps" and "see full volume" and that volume (on the amp or the guitar?) is after all the pedal effects? Whereas without the effects loop they wouldn't be? I suppose I need a real primer in the basics. Perhaps my questions require more basic understanding how all the equipment functions together. I do ask this because I have had trouble getting the right sound from an original MUTRON pedal, but I am using currently a guitar with no built-in effects loop and a Micro Cube amp, so I don't really hold much hope of getting it to sound right. But it would be nice to know how I might go about it once I have a decent amp, etc... Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: Old John Kadlecik Interview

Postby mijknahs » Tue May 04, 2010 4:32 pm

There is a lot of info on this board on how all this stuff works together.

Basically your Mutron will work the best if you have your guitar voulme all the way up and then you make the adjustments for sensitivity with the Mutron's gain control. One purpose of the guitar effects loop is so that the effects (especially the Mutron) will "see" a constant, strong signal that remains the same even if you turn down the volume on your guitar (the entire loop is pre-volume knob). But then if you don't turn your guitar down at all, it shouldn't matter that much. In other words, you should still be able to use a Mutron with just a "regular" guitar. The buffer helps the signal from degrading over long cables and effects but the most useful thing I've found is that you can turn your volume down without sacrificing tone and clarity. Again, not that big of a deal if you have your volume all the way up.

All this stuff is late 70's on (mainly 80's). If you're going for a good early 70's Jerry tone, you don't need any of that stuff. Just a good Les Paul, SG or Strat and a nice old Fender Twin Reverb (cleaned up with upgraded caps, etc.) with JBLs.

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