The one thing that has always been a little tricky in the past in other places has been getting uncluttered enough sound so that everything is heard clearly.
Tennessee Jedi wrote:The one thing that has always been a little tricky in the past in other places has been getting uncluttered enough sound so that everything is heard clearly.
Yeah this is always an issue for me.
From a players standpoint and a recording standpoint.
I have to have my amp at a certain level.Vocal moniters sometime help if you got the room.
The H2 ....
In one place I jam (which is a bank barn room with a concrete floor and huge) I place it ( H4 )in the back far away.I mic anything I really want to hear on playback, like keys.I play loud so I try to place the unit on the other side of the room.Works good for practice tapes.I would prefer to mic everything but thats a pain.
I also jam with some guys in a real small space and I dont think any amount of foam panels would help.
When I hear playbacks it always sounds better than when we played it,if that makes any sense.
Emoto wrote:I'm not terribly concerned about sound-proofing. My concern is more about how things sound inside the room to the people playing.
strumminsix wrote:Emoto wrote:I'm not terribly concerned about sound-proofing. My concern is more about how things sound inside the room to the people playing.
I dont' think I understand your posts, dude.
If you cannot get people to sound good in a basement when no soundproofing is required you are likely gonna have a helluva time on stage.
My point also hinges on your point of not recording but "My goal would be to get the room sounding good."
I've rehearsed all lined up like stage, facing each other in a circle, stacked up, around furniture, etc and getting a decent room mix is not a problem.
Now for recording yes, huge basement problems. IMO you only have 3 choices:
- use preamp/modellers
- isolation rooms/boxes
- amp shields to deflect sound
strumminsix wrote:Ahhh, okay, thank you! Now I get what you are saying.
Looking for a neutral eutopia where sounds are exactly deadened by the walls but not reflected either and consistency throughout the room.
Wow. Never sought that out before.
Guess I just got used to playing in less than ideal jam spots but they've always been free so never worried about it.
From what little I know on this topic here are my thoughts:
- beware of standing waves. face amps at an angle to the wall
- some spots will need deadeners (egg crate foam) and others something less severe like maybe a wool army blanket
- using floor monitors when rehearsing is both good practice for the stage as well as waves and angles and volume and relation to mics
all i can offer besides a wish of luck!
Jon S. wrote: Sometimes you have to say something twice to be heard: wall-to-wall carpeting, furniture, and assorted other stuff in the space can do a fine job of breaking up the sound surfaces (floors, walls) with area and texture.
Emoto wrote:Yes, carpets or rugs and soft furniture help.
Jon S. wrote:You may have no need whatsoever to spend a penny more on fancy foam products the same as me but you won't know until you try. Then again, I understand some folks just love buying and installing new "stuff" whenever they have a chance. If that's you, by all means, don't move a chair, add a rug, or hang a sheet, buy hundreds of dollars worth of foam and have fun attaching it.
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