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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby jdsmodulus » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:14 pm

Dozin wrote:When I play the poor mans cowboy it sounds great through the Dean Markley in a room by myself. However, with the band cranked up it looses that sparkle. When I play it through a Mesa studio and a Crest power amp I like it a lot. I'd like to find a combo that can maintain the same as the Mesa setup.

MK do you still have your Mark IV combo?

Have we seen your "pm" cowboy? I always thought you had a real one?
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby Dozin » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:45 pm

I don't have a Cowboy. Do a search for poor mans cowboy. I posted a picture of a Strat that I did up.
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby mkaufman » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:58 pm

Never owner a Mark IV. Had a Mesa Nomad combo - long gone.

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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby jeffm725 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:04 am

Michael,
I saw that you may already have this in your head, but I will confirm it for you. From everything you are describing as your wants and requirements, I really see only one direction for you:
Solid State

Im serious.
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby strumminsix » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:07 am

jeffm725 wrote:Michael,
I saw that you may already have this in your head, but I will confirm it for you. From everything you are describing as your wants and requirements, I really see only one direction for you:
Solid State

Im serious.

JC-120 is the first thought that popped into my head!
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby strumminsix » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:11 am

Wait, you said lighter... I really, really like these amps for what they can do:
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... arentId=57
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby jeffm725 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:53 am

strumminsix wrote:
jeffm725 wrote:Michael,
I saw that you may already have this in your head, but I will confirm it for you. From everything you are describing as your wants and requirements, I really see only one direction for you:
Solid State

Im serious.

JC-120 is the first thought that popped into my head!


JC-120 is definitely a workable amp for Weir stuff. Used to use one myself.Believe it or not you can get Jer tones out of it too. It is just a strong CLEAN amp that acts as a great pedal platform.

I think he could also go outside the box here and do something no one else has done. To my ears, the chime Weir got from 75-82 (and yes I know you can find distinctions within that period, but lets keep it simple) has an almost "direct" like quality to it. I find myself sometimes just totally falling ass backwards into a situation and then saying "wow that sounds like 78 Weir" .
The last time that happened was just 2 nights ago at a Shakedown gig. It was the end of the night, closing song and my Deluxe Reverb went kaput (blew or shorted power tube I think,I havent looked at it yet, but I got it back once by flipping the standby switch quickly like 6 times and used it for about 5 more minutes before it went ) anyway, for the last song I plugged into the keyboard players Powered Personal monitor a mackie SRM 150 :
http://www.mackie.com/products/srm150/

It is like a hotspot. It is just a self contained powered speaker. I swear to god it had the Weir chime! It had a little bit of help as we jumpered it to a 12 inch powered mackie speaker. It sounded remarkably good and cut right through the mix!

Michael, you and I have known each other for quite a while now. I have watched a ton of gear pass though your hands :-) :smile:
Start checking out some direct sounds via solid state equipment, and then build back from there.
Im actually going to do that myself.
The best way I can describe the key to Weirs sound from the era that both you and I love, is that it sounds "direct" even when its not direct.
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby mkaufman » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:40 pm

I sold my JC120 last year. Very nice amp, but pretty heavy & bulky for me.

Recently, my main gigging amp has been a Roland JC77 - it's a 2x10 smaller version of the JC120. At low volumes, it's perfect. Not fond of the sound when I turn louder. It just doesn't keep the same balance across the frequencies, or as Dozin puts it, it loses that sparkle. Is it an amp or speaker issue - I don't know.

Regarding solid state: I think of it often. Afterall, after his Boogie, Weir used solid state through to the end of his Ibanez era.

I recently remembered that I have an MC2100 (JeffM - wink wink nod nod...). It's way too heavy for me to lug to gigs, however, I plan on testing my IVP's with it.

Love the ideas... I sense more gear coming. SMS -> SS power amp???

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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby strumminsix » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:33 pm

MK, my SMS & TubeWorks is awesome! The new Roland cubes are great! Roland also has 77s that are lighter.

Jeff, for my 80s shows I do a SansAmp Cali directly into the board and it's outstanding!!
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby mkaufman » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:35 pm

strumminsix wrote:MK, my SMS & TubeWorks is awesome! The new Roland cubes are great! Roland also has 77s that are lighter.


77's - something different from my JC77?

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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby strumminsix » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:44 pm

Don't know how but for some reason I didn't read it right the first time. I think my eyes are used to seeing a 120 after JC...

Anyway, have you tried the Cubes?
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby mkaufman » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:56 pm

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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby mkaufman » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:11 pm

Played tonight with IVP->MC2100. I can get ample volume with clean tone. That's a good start, however, the MC2100 is too heavy so I'll need to find something else.

The trick is dialing in the right EQ with the IVP. There are 4 bands to play with. Any ideas?

From this experiment, maybe totally solid state is better for me.

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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby jdsmodulus » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:22 pm

I have owned a few IVP's over the years and I simply got tired of always turning knobs. I could never get it to sound the way I wanted for every song played. Turning around and messing with it got frustrating...But I put one in my Ebay watchlist just because so go figure! :lol:
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Re: Let's Talk Amps (again...)

Postby Dozin » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:02 am

I sold my IVP for the same reasons. To many knobs. I felt like I was tweaking the unit all the time.

MK, try the RM-150 w/ the MC2100
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