The Bridge

[pappypgh]

Hey guys, long time! Hope my ol' compadres are doing well.

So, again, theCAUSE is having a dispute on a chord. This time Black Peter - the bridge, in particular. This site, as well as JDARKS has this portion listed with a D MAJOR (this is the chord in question)...

D...............G.................C........C/B.....Am
Sun coming up and then the sun it going down

Now, I've listened (now, very recently due to this discussion) to many versions - including "Dozin' At The Knick" which is clean as a whistle and everyone in the band is together, the version from "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" which is an incredibly clear acoustic live version - where that first D is actually a Dm....played by the whole band, not just one. IMO, it's a Dm which compliments the F that kicks off the next line, AND if you listent to Jerry's walk-down riff from the previous chord (which is an Em), his notes are E-F-E-D. To land on a D major sounds absolutely horrible after that riff!!

So, I say it's this:

Dm..............G.................C........C/B.....Am
Sun coming up and then the sun it going down


What say you people?!

[Tennessee Jedi]

Hey Man !
We do -
Dm G C Em Am

Def sounds minor

[pappypgh]

Thanks Jedi!

One for me.

I see you play the full Em before the Am, too - I typically do that ol' C walk down C > C/B > Am

[pappypgh]

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from John K


D over "sun coming..." is def Dm... complicated somewhat by the melody/Jerry vocal part being on an E on "sun"...

"going down" btw is not C/B but either Em7/B or Bmsus4

So you were pretty much right as well, Jedi!

[Tennessee Jedi]

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from John K


D over "sun coming..." is def Dm... complicated somewhat by the melody/Jerry vocal part being on an E on "sun"...

"going down" btw is not C/B but either Em7/B or Bmsus4

So you were pretty much right as well, Jedi!

Me thinks I am prob playing something similar to you - I do a single note-y thing over the C / Em / Am- I just call it Em ...

[pappypgh]

Also got a nice email from JDarks telling me, "HEY! You're right" and he's updating his site.

[strumminsix]

Thanks, Pappy! Pinned the topic!

[Rusty the Scoob]

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from John K


D over "sun coming..." is def Dm... complicated somewhat by the melody/Jerry vocal part being on an E on "sun"...

"going down" btw is not C/B but either Em7/B or Bmsus4

So you were pretty much right as well, Jedi!

What's wrong with singing an E note over a Dm? You could call it either a 9th or a Sus note or both, depending on where it resolves.

[rugger]

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from John K


D over "sun coming..." is def Dm... complicated somewhat by the melody/Jerry vocal part being on an E on "sun"...

"going down" btw is not C/B but either Em7/B or Bmsus4

So you were pretty much right as well, Jedi!

What's wrong with singing an E note over a Dm? You could call it either a 9th or a Sus note or both, depending on where it resolves.

Well, I don't think he said anything is "wrong," just that it complicates it. In a different context singing a 2 (or a 9) can be tricky, maybe not as much in this case because we all know the melody so well.

I need to add that this bridge is a great piece of songwriting, imo.

john in san diego

[pappypgh]

Yeah, certainly nothing wrong with it! Just makes it harder to decipher for some (like Tourpro & Dave... )...just kidding. Anyway, I completely agree - this bridge is MIGHTY fine songwriting....